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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor those of us that have never (knowingly) had Covid are you tired of the lax attitudes?
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I.e. no more masks in the schools or office (or anywhere else it seems) requirements? No more remote work (so many corporate entities are doing this) unless you can prove some special and arbitrary reason that someone can approve?
Masks and remote options are the two EASIEST things that we can do to limit spread - THE EASIEST!....especially when it comes wave after wave. It slows down so we relax, then it picks up we panic.
What is up with the "let's party like it's November twenty nineteen" crowd? Covid and its ever morphing variants is not done, LONG COVID is still a thing, why should we assume it is over and OK? Is it mass arrested development? Is it past nostalgia? Is it the desire to control people?
Also I can't pin a generational blame on this one. It runs the gamut. Although most CEO's/ED's are young Boomers or X'ers now so. And I am an older X'er sooooooo.
What the hell is going on? Please try to explain this to me.
I have given up caring who of the careless gets it (the next variant?) bad...I think.
Ack. Must walk the dogs then have more beer.
Quakerfriend
(5,450 posts)The news out of the UK is not good.
And, we are usually ~ 3 weeks behind them.
40% increase in cases in UK over past 2 wks + the latest variants seem to be causing greater illness and are attacking the lungs more - much like Delta did.
No matter what I am continuing to mask up anywhere I go- even the dog park!
Im very disappointed in people- but, they just dont want to think about it anymore, I guess.
Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)Although there is no evidence that these new subvariants cause more severe disease, their rise to dominance suggests that they can, at least to some degree, evade existing immunity.
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/23/britain-covid-wave-pandemic-matt-hancock-world-vaccinated
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Longest 2 weeks of my life.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Ocelot II
(115,683 posts)No restaurants except for outdoor seating, masks in indoor public places, not going anywhere where there are large numbers of people. I'm not ordering groceries for delivery any more (it's become too expensive) but I haven't changed my behavior much otherwise. A lot of people, though not everyone by any means, are still wearing masks indoors around here, which might help a little.
LoisB
(7,203 posts)deRien
(165 posts)at our home a couple of days ago. She said that a lot of retirement homes were experiencing a high rate of infection probably due to all the high school graduations in the area. A friend's mother's retirement home wasn't allowing anyone in because of the increase in COVID rates. She warned us to continue to be careful out in public, etc. which isn't a problem as we always mask up in public (mostly doctor appointments and grocery stores).
Skittles
(153,160 posts)more proof of just how many stupid, selfish assholes surround us
Arkansas Granny
(31,515 posts)I'm still wearing a mask on the bus, avoiding crowds and social distancing as much as possible. I've gotten so spoiled to grocery deliveries that I don't even go shopping.
If I've had Covid, it was completely asymptomatic. I had a cold a few months back, but two home tests came back negative.
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Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)Up until recent history there were contagious diseases that ran rampant through the human species. Yet somehow we seem to have not only survived but to have thrived. Then came antibiotics, vaccines and even anti-virals and it seemed we had the upper hand. And now we dont. This virus isnt going anywhere and it mutates as fast as a vaccine can be made to combat it.
ProfessorGAC
(65,010 posts)First, it was inevitable. A large group of people will accept inconveniences only temporarily. As soon as the fire is out, they go about planning what's next.
Second, medical science has mostly put the fire out. Still some hotspots to flare up, but probably won't take the whole neighborhood. Those medical scientists were pretty good firefighters.
There was a whole article here in GD showing the substantial disconnect between cases & hospitalization& death. The data was pretty clear. The disease is not the rampant killer it was earlier in the pandemic.
I think it kind of Pollyanna like to think people would wear masks for 3 years. Geez, 30% of the population wouldn't wear them when the death rate was high.
The return to normal hardly seems a logical reason to be annoyed.
Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)Talitha
(6,584 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,475 posts)It's infuriating. Fortunately, my mask hides my snarl.
JanMichael
(24,885 posts)Without it I may have gotten in trouble...
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)VarryOn
(2,343 posts)The first couple of days, I felt quite off-color and scheduled a tele-health visit with my GP after succumbing to my naggi...insistent wife. He gave me a cocktail of prescriptions, which included some quite good cough medication. I would have been fine without any of it, to be honest. I know the early strains of Covid were quite severe, but thankfully, I had omicron. My GP said in our town the previous 7 days almost 300 (out of a pop. Of about 75k) had tested positive and 3 had to be hospitalized. All 3 were not vaxxed but thankfully were going to be ok.
I spent the first part of this week in Canada, and the gate agents in Charlotte required us to be masked to even enter the jet bridge. Upon taxi, the flight attendant informed us masking would not be enforced. I'd say 75% of us demasked, right then. We were warned to mask up before deplaning in Toronto. I complied as I didn't need any issues entering the country. But, going through customs, I saw several sans masks. They made it through as easy as I did.
I had meetings and meals with two well-known North American companies. People from both were bemoaning how they cannot get their employees back in the office notwithstanding quite low infection rates.
Returning home, the Toronto airport guards caught us within 20 feet of entering the building without masks. We complied as we had masks at-the-ready assuming we'd be nailed. As our plane was pushing back from the gate, the pilot informed us that we should respect any passenger who now chose to keep their mask on. Again, about 75% of masks were removed. I threw mine in the trash once I arrived at ORD.
LuckyCharms
(17,425 posts)elias7
(3,997 posts)Im tired of people with opinions and rationalizations that ignore the fact that we could be doing so much more to protect the vulnerable in our community. Im seeing a handful of cases daily. Its not gone, people are so f***ing selfish.
JanMichael
(24,885 posts)You beat my lovely spouse who is a school librarian at the avoid it at all costs game. I think an ER would be even more full of Covid compared to a library.
I work in an office so you both have done better that I have even though I have so far escaped it.
dickthegrouch
(3,173 posts)The rolling 7-day daily rate of infection in this county is ~1000.
It's dropped from 1100 last week.
Not a big enough drop, or a sustained enough drop, for us.
They were trying to tell him "It's safe". I'd like a work-safe way to tell them to take their ignorance, stupidity and wanton disregard for the truth and put it where the sun don't shine.
Damn them for their stupidity.
Damn the politicians and officials for not giving us clear rules to live by.
Damn the welfare, employment and health care "system" for not supporting sick people staying at home.
I am deeply disappointed by the 21st century.
JanMichael
(24,885 posts)With some common sense measures the increase might be 5k instead of 10. Maybe that maybe not. We don't know. What we do know is that when we have thought Covid was over in the past we have been wrong. It didn't care that it was summer, it doesn't follow seasonal patterns. It just does its thing.
But who knows.
Dorian Gray
(13,493 posts)Who had it a month and a half ago. Weve been more lax since theyve recovered, but having said that, we are probably still stricter than the majority of people in the world. Will stilll mask on plane. Still mask on subway. In stores. I didnt mask in our hotel lobby today, but we were far away from people, and we had dinner outside while away on a trip. Not hanging out with other households. Put mask on to stop in rest stop today. And to shop in a 7-11.
I feel like the likelihood that we will be passing it on to others is low right now. Same with likelihood of getting it. Case numbers also going down where i live.
Ms. Toad
(34,069 posts)We are courting a long term public health disaster, the likes of which we have not seen since polio.
We already know several long term consequences. The number of such consequences will only grow as we learn more. I'm disgusted at how cavalier people are, including the anti mask crew on DU.
niyad
(113,284 posts)claustrophobic, yet I still wear my mask, and will continue for quite some time. I avoid crowds, still social distance. I want to smack the clueless, selfish, ignorant, and determinedly obtuse.