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Ohio Joe

(21,723 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:05 AM Jun 2022

EmptyWheel: THE DOJ AND JANUARY 6 INVESTIGATIONS INTO FAKE ELECTORS

CRIME IN THE ERA OF ENCRYPTED APPS: THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DOJ AND JANUARY 6 INVESTIGATIONS INTO FAKE ELECTORS

Yesterday, DOJ took a slew of overt steps in their investigation into the fake electors:

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Even though some of these reports cite the late January batch of subpoenas DOJ sent to people who had declined to participate in the fake elector scheme, the timing of the action — taking place one day after the hearing on the scheme — has set off the usual set of whinging that DOJ isn’t doing as much as the January 6 Committee.

Yet even the first of these stories — the WaPo one — provides reason to believe that DOJ is not chasing the January 6 Committee on this investigation at all. And as I keep pointing out, in April 2021, DOJ took steps — starting on Lisa Monaco’s first day in office — that will be critical to this investigation.

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To be clear: I think it likely that DOJ has or will exploit the January 6 investigation into the same topic in at least two ways.

First, I think it likely that DOJ piggybacked on the Committee’s privilege fight with Eastman. They’ve always had the ability to serve a warrant on Chapman University for the same emails the Committee has been receiving covertly, after all, which is the kind of thing DOJ loves to do in an investigation. But by doing so in the wake of Judge David Carter’s privilege decisions, DOJ can get crime-fraud excepted communications without a Special Master process like the one they used with Rudy.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/06/23/crime-in-the-era-of-encrypted-apps-the-relationship-between-the-doj-and-january-6-investigations-into-fake-electors/

Wow... Another fact filled article by EmptyWheel. As always, it is a lot to take in with cites and links that get heavy in detail. But man... This stuff is worth it, I'm finding it all extremely fascinating. I would really not want a DOJ under Garland crawling up my ass with a microscope... Like having a fucking terminator coming after you.

Bottom line looks to me that DOJ and the committee are not cooperating with the hearings and the subpoena's but looks like FOJ used what the committee was doing to keep their activities quiet. Amazing stuff. Go read all of it, the dedicated work being done over there deserves no less IMO.

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EmptyWheel: THE DOJ AND JANUARY 6 INVESTIGATIONS INTO FAKE ELECTORS (Original Post) Ohio Joe Jun 2022 OP
Will take a look..thanks for the info...let me ask, as I have done a cpl times tonight... asiliveandbreathe Jun 2022 #1
My guess would be... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #2
Thanks for responding..i agree with your assessment..was1 article..inciting a riot..i get it..turnin asiliveandbreathe Jun 2022 #3
The DOJ appears rubbersole Jun 2022 #4

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
1. Will take a look..thanks for the info...let me ask, as I have done a cpl times tonight...
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:30 AM
Jun 2022

Where were these DOJ people and today's info during the 2nd impeachment...might have been helpful to the managers of that effort..

Ohio Joe

(21,723 posts)
2. My guess would be...
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:41 AM
Jun 2022

The 2nd impeachment happened very quickly and there were no witnesses called. It was introduced on Jan 11th and voted on he 13th. It was brought to the senate for trial on the 25th, five days after tfg left office. I think by this point they knew there would be a deep dive investigation and also that repugs were going to acquit again.. Plus, all that trial could have done was remove him from an office he no longer occupied so... I think they really turned their focus to the criminal investigation.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
3. Thanks for responding..i agree with your assessment..was1 article..inciting a riot..i get it..turnin
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:08 AM
Jun 2022

Criminal inv..we lucked out I guess..Pelosi manuevered McCarthy out of the committee along with the cohorts of tfg...the likes of jordan...Perhaps Pelosi caught wind of what we heard today .back then...Liz Cheney could have known also..considering she rebuffed Jordan trying to help her .saying YOU DID THIS..as the Capital was under attack..

Cheney is on a miission...ain't letting up on collieges or tfg...and rightly so...

rubbersole

(6,651 posts)
4. The DOJ appears
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:51 AM
Jun 2022

to be letting the J6 committee expose the corruption to the public so their actions look apolitical. It's genius and seems to be working perfectly. Hope it peaks right before the midterms.

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