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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy guess is that from hereon in, concerning purple states only
if a democratic candidate (President, Senator, congressional representative) wins, there's the presumption of fraud.
But if a republican candidate wins, the System works.
And my theory carries even if there's a wide margin between the candidates.
lapfog_1
(29,204 posts)"But if a republican candidate wins, the System works."
that isn't what happens... they STILL insist that there is election fraud.
I think it would have to be a 100% vote for a MAGA candidate for them to finally say "ok, the system works"
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)His victory margin is usually around 95%, isn't it? The Repukes want to win just like him.
BComplex
(8,051 posts)Where a republican won, even though the democrats polled way ahead? And nobody tried to throw out the results when the republican won?
no_hypocrisy
(46,104 posts)One of two things: Democrats win, fraud. Republicans win, no fraud.
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)they had to "practice" among themselves, like the Oz vs McCormick mail-ballot fiasco during the GOP primary!
IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)Yet Collins was concerned enough to pull off a miraculous upset
Celerity
(43,366 posts)KY
Other than one outlier (a B Minus-rated poll, RMG Research, with a large Dem bias, where she led by one point, back in May 2020) McGrath never lead in any poll and on balance, she always trailed on aggregate from the beginning, June 2019, until the end
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_Senate_election_in_Kentucky
SC
Other than one outlier (a C-rated poll, Swayable, with a very large Dem bias) Harrison never polled more than 2 points up, was often down, and on balance, and he always trailed on aggregate from the beginning, March 2019, until the end
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_Senate_election_in_South_Carolina
NC
Cunningham did have a decent lead for most of the time, but that sexting scandal, plus a large Red turnout for Trump there, helped the very weak Tillis scrape out a win.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_Senate_election_in_North_Carolina#Campaign
On October 3, the New York Times wrote that the race had fallen into "utter mayhem" within a period of a few hours after Tillis tested positive for COVID-19 and Cunningham admitted to exchanging sexual text messages with a woman who was not his wife, damaging an image that leaned heavily on his character and military service. Days later, the woman confirmed that she had a consensual physical relationship with Cunningham in 2020. The Army Reserve started an investigation into Cunningham. The husband of the woman who confirmed having an affair with Cunningham, himself an Army veteran, called on Cunningham to drop out of the Senate race. Asked repeatedly whether he had had other extramarital affairs, Cunningham declined to answer.
Cunningham struggles to refocus N.C. Senate campaign after acknowledging extramarital relationship
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-north-carolina-cunningham-democrats/2020/10/09/0be9765c-0a6e-11eb-9be6-cf25fb429f1a_story.html
Asked four times whether there are more affairs not yet known, Cunningham declined to say yes or no
https://www.wral.com/asked-four-times-whether-there-are-more-affairs-not-yet-known-cunningham-declined-to-say-yes-or-no/19328515/
After woman confirms affair, her husband calls on Cunningham to drop out of NC Senate race
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article246280130.html
Cunningham dodges questions about text message scandal
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/520396-cunningham-dodges-questions-about-affair-amid-text-message-scandal/
Here are the polls.
The reason for the upshot for Cunningham at the very end is that you had 3 very mean-reverted-bias Dem-skewed polls (Swayable again, the B Minus-rated Change Research, and the B-rated Data For Progress) come in with larger leads for him, but also large margins of error for Swayable and Change Research (the leads: 4 point lead for Cunningham from Change Research, 6 point lead for Cunningham from Swayable, 5 point lead from Data For Progress)
rainin
(3,011 posts)IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)since elections can't be trusted
Jarqui
(10,125 posts)allow Republicans to appoint the electoral college they want for example.
Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)Aside from a law negating many of the voter repression and nullification laws Republicans have passed, we need a federal mandate that all voting machines that are to be used in federal elections have paper backups and its programming tested before every vote by a nonpartisan independent agency. In addition, we need a uniform design for mail ballots with clear instructions for completion, including the use of color and arrows to highlight where the ballot must be signed and dated. Texas has deliberately designed its mail ballots to make them as confusing as possible to trip up voters so they can toss the votes for minor clerical errors.
Another issue that needs to be addressed is the restoration of voting rights for former prisoners. States should not be allowed to deny the right to vote after the person has been released from prison. Nor should states be allowed to prevent voting by forcing former prisoners to pay fines incurred before they were imprisoned. Prison is the punishment for crimes and nonpayment of fees. Florida has done this to get around the voters mandate that former prisoners be allowed to vote.
I hope we can add enough senators this fall to get around the current obstructors, while also holding on to the House. There is much work to be done and we need a functioning Congress. Given what we are seeing from the Supreme Court, passing term limits for justices should be one of the first orders of business. Then make Puerto Rico and DC states and move on to a serious evaluation of adding four more justices to the SC. With decades to impose their will, we could see many rights taken away unless the religious radicals are balanced with moderate or progressive justices who follow the law.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)You have a couple instances where there may be protected classes that the feds can protect, but most of what you are saying is, constitutionally, clearly in the hands of the states.
Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)That is why the Voting Rights Act was so important. States could still choose to use different rules for local and state elections, but it would be costly and confusing to do so.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)just that you couldn't make it harder and discriminate against protected classes.
The OP wants uniform ballots in all states and that is not going to pass SCOTUS. States get to do that.