trump documentarian just said he believes trump believed he won

[mucifer]

which to him was more terrifying because he was irrational.

He said before they interviewed trump he believed trump was lying and knew it.

This was on Morning Joe. Makes me wonder if much helpful stuff will come from the newly disclosed videos.

[leftyladyfrommo]

1. It's possible he is lost in his delusions.

His whole life is so stressful that he might have lost it
Or he's pretending.

[spanone]

2. Such Bullshit....he was Attorney General shopping and told by all he lost.

[dalton99a]

3. +1

[fightforfreedom]

4. I don't buy it. Trump knew the election was not stolen.

That guy is being fooled by a serial liar.

[secondwind]

5. Total BS. Trump knew he was going to lose BEFORE

the election. His “internals” told him this time and again.

Which is why he began the rumor of a “stolen election” BEFORE the actual election.

[TwilightZone]

9. Yep.

They were already plotting in October, if not before.

[BigmanPigman]

6. I heard that too and had the same reaction.

It contradicted tons of evidence.

[gab13by13]

7. Fuck the documentarian,

and Fuck Morning Scum. The documentarian is wrong and Morning Scum doesn't need to push that propaganda.

[TwilightZone]

8. Nah.

He knew he lost. That's why he was so desperate to find people with no conscience (see: Giuliani, Rudy) who would help him sell the lie.

[dixiechiken1]

10. He started saying that yesterday on MSNBC after the hearings...

Pissed me right tf off! I turned the channel.

[SharonClark]

11. "trump documentarian"? You mean Alex Holder?

[wishstar]

12. That guy must be gullible to the Trump's conniving gaslighting

No doubt in Trump's narcissistic egotism he thought he should have won. But evidence of his statements indicates he knew he did not get more votes hence his wanting Georgia officials to just claim he had more votes with no evidence and wanted DOJ to claim fraud in order to facilitate states going along with the fake elector scheme. He deliberately used extremely exaggerated claims and wild hyperbole thinking his bluster could convince Repub officials to go along with his big lie.

[magicarpet]

13. trDUMP is a charlatan,...

... nothing more,.. nothing less.

*****

Charlatan

For other uses, see Charlatan (disambiguation).
"Swindler" redirects here. For other uses, see Swindler (disambiguation).
A charlatan (also called a swindler or mountebank) is a person practicing quackery or a similar confidence trick in order to obtain money, power, fame, or other advantages through pretense or deception. Synonyms for charlatan include shyster, quack, or faker. Quack is a reference to quackery or the practice of dubious medicine, including the sale of snake oil, or a person who does not have medical training who purports to provide medical services.

[Botany]

14. Trump knew he was going to lose way before the election

That is why he ripped out Jackie's Rose Garden. He just wanted to be a dick.

[2naSalit]

15. I heard him on NPR...

And I think pisswig convinced him that he believes he won, I think he's has a polished act when it comes to making shit up and that guy bought it.

The guy had a camera crew so, of course, shitgibbon and co were all about advertising the grift of the day so that was what was on the script for that guy's doc.

[BlueIdaho]

16. A pathological liar has no "tells"

TFG is a sick man. His sociological and pathological tendencies allow him to believe whatever suits him in the moment. Sounds like that film maker has never run across this sort of dangerous scumbag before.

[Solomon]

19. Thats what i was about to say. The guy has

nevercome across this kind of liar before. 1

[Scrivener7]

17. Here comes a "diminished capacity" defense.

[mopinko]

21. and i'm perfectly happy w that.

i WANT to talk about his brain function. i want to see his mri, his record from his secret run to reed, his dementia screening..
and i want to see dr ronnie feelgood in the brig.

[Scrivener7]

25. I want him out of public life and discredited. That will go some way to

discredit those who are modeling themselves on him, and hopefully make the cult go back underground.

The hearings make me very hopeful that he is being discredited, and they give me a lot of relief.

At this point anything else is frosting.

[mopinko]

26. yup.

but i do think it's a convo we need very, very badly to have.

[Patton French]

18. If you tell yourself a lie long enough, you'll start to believe it.

But that doesn’t exonerate him.

[MerryHolidays]

20. Patently absurd. Trump is using the fiction of the "Red Mirage". That's it.

Remember that Trump, with almost no exceptions, NEVER was ahead against Joe Biden in ANY poll during the 2020 Presidential Election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election

There was essentially clear unanimity among all polls during the entirety of the 2020 Presidential race that Joe Biden would handily beat Trump, which he did.

What the Big Lie is premised on is solely the "Red Mirage" on Election Night. In other words, many states released Election Day voting results showing Trump ahead, only because R voters tend to vote on Election Day. In fact, Trump bent over backwards to tell his voters to ONLY vote on Election Day and not to use mail-in or other early voting means.

Once states started counting mail-in and other early voting, Joe Biden gained heavily all over the US and then surpassed Trump in some key swing states, which ended the fiction of the Red Mirage. This is called the "Blue Shift" and is/was entirely expected. Please search "Blue shift politics" in Wikipedia for a good description, including in the specific context of the 2020 Presidential Election...for some reason, I can't get the link to post properly here.)

Trump has used the Red Mirage to perpetuate the lie that he had won on Election Night. No two ways about it. He tried to couch the Blue Shift as voter fraud, but that was debunked by everyone, including every court that had cases about voter fraud/irregularities.

Never forget that.

[Mr. Ected]

22. I heard him say that, too, on Joy Reid's show

But his "diagnosis" of Trump's mental state carries ZERO value in any official proceeding. His 11 hours of video will do all the talking for him.

Just a hunch, but if the election steal was being plotted BEFORE the election, which I very much believe happened, Trump's mental state will be meaningless anyway.

[Samrob]

24. That's just the documentarian's belief. The facts demonstrate otherwise.

Maybe at first he couldn't believe that he had lost but after the first six court losses and all his minions telling him he lost and that no evidence existed to prove otherwise, he knew he lost. His acts of desperation were criminal, period. No matter what he believed, he committed criminal acts against the US government and some states. NY criminal cases have nothing to do with the 2020 election. Just his racketeering.

[GoodRaisin]

27. Just more bullshit. Trump knows damn well he lost.

[Enoki33]

28. Trump is a con man. He specializes in

making people believe lies.

[Midnight Writer]

29. Trump started the "rigged election" BS even before his 2016 election.

It has been his Plan B all along.

[RussBLib]

30. "the only way I lose is if it is stolen"

I remember him saying that, laying the groundwork, that POS.

If he really believed it was stolen, he is delusional and should have been nowhere near the office.

Enough people "in the know" told him he lost. Whether or not he believed he won is irrelevant.

[chowder66]

31. Trump was lying and when he was repeatedly told he lost he kept at it because he wants what he wants

He is projecting to get the outcome he wants. In the process that helps him to find the people willing to get their hands dirty to make it happen.

It's a con, through and through.