If Susan Sarandon comments please bring it here immediately. nt

[DURHAM D]

[Aristus]

1. It will probably just be more of her "this will kick-start the revolution!" bullshit.

n/t

[Hav]

50. Surely, it's the second Trump term that will finally give them their revolution (n/t)

[LetMyPeopleVote]

2. Susan Sarandon must be very happy today

[Just A Box Of Rain]

3. Her last post on Twitter

appears to show she's been enjoying a sunset sail off San Juan.

Must be nice.

Link to tweet

[Cuthbert Allgood]

4. You're giving her too much credit

We can't seriously think that one person caused an entire US Presidential election to be swayed.

[DURHAM D]

5. Huh? I am not giving her any credit. nt

[Cuthbert Allgood]

10. Then who cares what she has to say?

Seems like the general trend right now is that this is her fault.

[48656c6c6f20]

53. You pick an odd time to advocate for Susan

Perhaps you're tone deaf to what's happening in the USA or something else.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

54. I'm not advocating for Susan; I'm saying that our enemy is to the right.

Let's focus on that and not someone we see as a symbol of why Hillary lost when in actuality it wasn't one thing that caused that loss.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

11. So all it takes to lose an election is one pretty good actor saying things?

It is WAY more complex than that.

[betsuni]

14. She's been a political activist for decades. Surrogate for politicians.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

7. Why let it go?

She advocated for this. I'm sorry if some of the Republican enablers on the Left get their fee fees hurt, but they're the ones who put us where we are today.
Fuck her, fuck Jill Stein, and fuck everyone who enabled this.

THEY WERE WARNED AND THEY DIDN'T CARE.

Shows how much conscience they really have.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

12. Because it wasn't Susan Sarandon that lost the election of us.

Yes, she said some things that didn't make sense. If you think she was the reason that Clinton lost three VERY CLOSE swing states that we knew going in were going to be ridiculously close, then you are giving her too much credit.

I get that she is a visible and famous face for something that pissed people off, but, you know, let it go.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

15. Do I think she directly swayed 90,000 votes or whatever it was?

No.
But she was the public face of the bullshit attitude that somehow it was more noble not to vote for someone who gave a speech and sent some e-mails than try to protect the Supreme Court.

[emulatorloo]

18. If Stein voters et cetera in those three states had voted Democratic, Clinton would have won.

She is one of many short-sighted ‘leftists’ who generated endless anti-Clinton bullshit propaganda.

If you expect us to forget their responsibility for enabling Trump’s win, it is not going to happen.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

21. It's also not as simple as just Stein, but she isn't Sarandon.

There is nothing solid we have that those that voted for Stein would have voted for Clinton. Or voted at all.

[The Magistrate]

27. Naderites Wore That Wheeze Out Long Ago, Sir

Post-2000 polling indicates that of Nader's Florida vote, most would have voted for Mr. Gore were Nader not on the ballot.

Claiming they might not have voted at all doesn't alter the case: the left tendency to insist Democrats are 'just as bad' as Republicans, and are not worth voting for, objectively aids the christo-fascist effort to crush social and cultural progress, and the political left itself. Defense of people who speak publicly in support of this tendency, and of attempts to foster it, are in fact support for creatures like DeSantis, Abbot, McConnell, and the corrupt body masquerading today as a supreme court of Justice.

[emulatorloo]

32. So? Both-siderism always helps Republicans win.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

38. You are correct.

There were other kindred spirits involved who urged people not to vote for the Democratic nominee.

Not all that "complex."

[Sympthsical]

24. If you're looking for responsibility

It is a long, long list of people who were in positions to influence that election. An actress isn't at the top of it. It's also weird for her to be a first thought at this tragic historic moment. Certainly some people live rent free in people's heads, but who reserved Sarandon the penthouse?

There are a whole lot of salient people I'd love to ask, "So, how did that all work out for you?" right about now.

[betsuni]

26. She's been a political activists for decades and surrogate for politicians running for president.

[Sympthsical]

34. If you can produce for me

5 people who can honestly say, "I voted for Trump because Susan Sarandon told me to," I will venmo you $100.

[betsuni]

41. Surrogate for Ralph Nader, John Edwards, Bernie Sanders, endorsed Jill Stein for president.

Political activist.

[Sympthsical]

44. No one cares

A handful of television appearances by an actress is nothing compared to the full weight of thirty years of the Right villainizing Clinton. It's like walking out into a flooded river and complaining some drizzle got on your coat.

Inconsequential.

The obsession with it has long since escaped the bounds of usefulness.

[betsuni]

47. Attacks from the supposed left are much more effective at making potential Democratic

voters cynical and uninterested in voting than attacks from the right.

[emulatorloo]

28. My first thought is for women who will suffer because of this ruling.

Don’t put words in my mouth I didn’t say.

[Sympthsical]

36. I was referencing the OP

It's objectively odd that Sarandon is a prominent thought before abortion rights have even reached the morgue for autopsy.

[emulatorloo]

37. Uh-huh

Take care and have a good day.

[Sympthsical]

40. No one's having a good day today

[emulatorloo]

42. Of course not.

But I can still send kind words to someone I disagree w on DU.

[Sympthsical]

43. It was just a commiseration

[The Magistrate]

8. She Serves For The Emblem, Sir

Of the sort of leftist who imagines the old Comintern slogan 'Hitler is the ice-breaker of the Revolution' constitutes sound political analysis and policy.

These people have done tremendous damage, and seem intent on continuing to do so.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

13. Good thing she is just a B+ level actor and not someone with actual power.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

16. You're really focused on defending her

[Cuthbert Allgood]

22. I think the hatred for her is emblematic

of pointing to those to the left of you and blaming them for everything when this is squarely on the right. Let's not lose sight of the enemy.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

29. I blame the Right and the Left

Anyone who didn't bother to vote for Hillary (and to an extent Gore) owns this. If they didn't know what would happen, even after multiple warnings, they're stupid. And if someone wasn't willing to stand up for the right to choose, that tells me how much of a "conscience" they really have.

[emulatorloo]

31. Sarandon and her ilk constantly lie about and blame Democrats for what Republicans do.

Time you wake up and realize that these self-proclaimed “leftists” are GOP enablers

[JI7]

45. These so called leftists are frauds and scammers. They should be exposed.

[The Magistrate]

17. You Do Understand You Make Yourself A Figure Of Fun With This Line, Sir?

In the present media environment, exposure and following translate directly to power of influence. She reinforces alignment with, and moves some to alignment with, an extremely pernicious political tendency, one which, despite all its claims to be the 'true left' view, is in practical fact the left auxiliary of the christo-fascist right.

Deal with it.

[emulatorloo]

19. Well said, thank you.

[Treefrog]

23. Most people couldn't care less what she says.

Probably a great many don’t even know who she is.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

25. For what it's worth, I'm always a figure of fun. I'm delightful.

You do understand that you saying what one actor said somehow undid a certainty of what an entire multi-billion dollar presidential campaign did is just shoddy logic.

I'm pissed, too. I'm just pissed with the right and not those to the left of me.

[The Magistrate]

33. No One Is Saying That, Sir

Surely you can bundle up a better straw-man than that. She is attacked as the emblem of a destructive tendency among the 'lefter than thou' among us.

My antipathy towards the christo-fascist right is deep enough that I've no use at all for people to my left who aid its victories at the polls. By now this assistance cannot be viewed as being rendered in ignorance of what consequences their actions will have. They know what they are doing.

[Beaverhausen]

35. Just do what I do and trash all the Saradon threads

I love her films but I wouldn't take advice on who to vote for from her. People do give her too much credit.

[mathematic]

51. "Both sides are the same" is a communications strategy

Trying to frame it as "one person" is nonsense.

[G_j]

9. why?

[Treefrog]

20. Who in the he'll cares what that woman says?

She means nothing to most people.

[G_j]

52. exactly

[FelineOverlord]

39. It's more about Sarandon and Nina Turner totally sabotaging Hillary

This is why we worked so hard so that Nina Turner would LOSE.

[JI7]

46. Susan Sarandon supported John Edwards who cosponsered the

Iraq war resolution while attacking Hillary Clinton as war monger .

These scammers and frauds should be exposed. It's not about just one person convincing many others. It's about all of these people spreading the same attacks against Democrats who also have to deal with attacks from the right and a media playing both sides

[betsuni]

48. YES! It's so ironic. She was an Edwards surrogate and he was totally WARMONGER because

Iraq vote thing but somehow that didn't count, that was different.

[Torchlight]

49. She's a very accomplished actor.

That's about all the positive I've got for her anymore.