Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:19 AM
plimsoll (1,620 posts)
So Bret presented this chestnut.Kavanaugh highlights Loving and other important substantive due process in assuring the public that today’s majority decision in Dobbs leaves them untouched. “I emphasize what the Court today states: Overruling Roe does not mean the overruling of those precedents, and does not threaten or cast doubt on those precedents,” Kavanaugh wrote. Maybe a smart person can explain to me why Mr. Kavanaugh should be taken at his word?
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plimsoll | Jun 2022 | OP |
Ocelot II | Jun 2022 | #1 | |
plimsoll | Jun 2022 | #3 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Jun 2022 | #2 | |
plimsoll | Jun 2022 | #6 | |
FBaggins | Jun 2022 | #8 | |
plimsoll | Jun 2022 | #9 | |
haele | Jun 2022 | #11 | |
misanthrope | Jun 2022 | #13 | |
roamer65 | Jun 2022 | #4 | |
griffi94 | Jun 2022 | #5 | |
Tomconroy | Jun 2022 | #7 | |
sinkingfeeling | Jun 2022 | #10 | |
Midnight Writer | Jun 2022 | #12 | |
hvn_nbr_2 | Jun 2022 | #14 |
Response to plimsoll (Original post)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:20 AM
Ocelot II (111,632 posts)
1. Did he read Thomas' concurring opinion?
Response to Ocelot II (Reply #1)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:21 AM
plimsoll (1,620 posts)
3. The obvious response here is,
He can read?
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Response to plimsoll (Original post)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:20 AM
Just A Box Of Rain (5,104 posts)
2. Kavanaugh has proven to be a serial liar.
I'd take his comments as a signpost of what's next.
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Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #2)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:22 AM
plimsoll (1,620 posts)
6. Right,
But Thomas did exclude Loving from his list of substantive due process items up for attack. Hmm.
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Response to plimsoll (Reply #6)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:26 AM
FBaggins (26,184 posts)
8. Changing their take on substantive due process wouldn't get rid of Loving
It rests at least as much on the Equal Protection Clause.
Of course... so do most of the others listed. |
Response to FBaggins (Reply #8)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:49 AM
plimsoll (1,620 posts)
9. Well, Loving's probably safe.
As long as Thomas is alive. He may be crooked as hell, but he's not going to place himself in legal jeopardy.
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Response to plimsoll (Reply #9)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:56 AM
haele (12,205 posts)
11. Unless he wants a divorce and doesn't want to split assets.
If his marriage is null and void, he can walk away with whatever he wants, and she can find her own way. That is, until he finds himself becoming 3/5ths of a person depending on the state he lives in.
Obergefell ruling was founded on Loving. If Obergefell no longer protects non-cis marriages, then Loving no longer protects "mixed race" marriages. Because that's where he's going with his statement. Haele |
Response to plimsoll (Reply #9)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:34 PM
misanthrope (7,279 posts)
13. That would all depend on where he got married and resides
It would be easy for him to sidestep miscegenation laws. There were only 16 states where those were still on the books with Loving v. Virginia was ruled on by SCOTUS.
Plus, as we saw with the federal government's rush to protect SCOTUS judges from being exposed to protests, Thomas is part of the ruling elite. They have different laws and a different reality in a nation that ridiculously maintains itself as inherently class-free. |
Response to plimsoll (Original post)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:21 AM
roamer65 (36,140 posts)
4. Another lie from Boofer boy.
Response to plimsoll (Original post)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:21 AM
griffi94 (3,679 posts)
5. Except we already know that Kavanaugh is a liar.
Response to plimsoll (Original post)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:22 AM
Tomconroy (7,104 posts)
7. Clarence Thomas said the opposite although he omitted
Loving from the list of substantive due process cases he would overule.
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Response to plimsoll (Original post)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:55 AM
sinkingfeeling (49,440 posts)
10. Didn't the liar say something similar about Roe during his co9nfirmation hearings?
Response to plimsoll (Original post)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:19 PM
Midnight Writer (20,439 posts)
12. Kavanaugh will do as he's told.
Response to plimsoll (Original post)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 02:12 PM
hvn_nbr_2 (6,433 posts)