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a way around an abortion ban (Original Post) moonshinegnomie Jun 2022 OP
The GOP Fourth Reich will make it illegal to do this. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #1
That works for gambling in my state. greymattermom Jun 2022 #2
there are ways around it.. the fda and the abortion pill issue yet..also..we need to samnsara Jun 2022 #3
The supreme court did not ban abortion. Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #4
theres a large segment that live far from where its lega now moonshinegnomie Jun 2022 #5
I never said otherwise. Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #10
It is still a devastating decision in regards to women being full equal human beings. boston bean Jun 2022 #6
I never suggested otherwise. Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #8
My state Rebl2 Jun 2022 #9
Unfortunately, this decision opens the door to the latter (morning after pill), but not the former. Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #11
Okaaayy... Wednesdays Jun 2022 #7
Go north? SomewhereInTheMiddle Jun 2022 #12

samnsara

(17,570 posts)
3. there are ways around it.. the fda and the abortion pill issue yet..also..we need to
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:34 AM
Jun 2022

declare we will disobey scotus from now on. make that body of gvnt ineffectual...

im getting a bumpersticker made now

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
4. The supreme court did not ban abortion.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jun 2022

It removed the constitutitonal barrier for states which choose to ban abortion.

Abortion will remain legal in any state which chooses to allow it - no need to go 3 miles off-shore. (Aside from which most people in the US live at least as close to states in which abortion will remain legal than they do to the shore.

moonshinegnomie

(2,408 posts)
5. theres a large segment that live far from where its lega now
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:42 AM
Jun 2022

take texas or louisiana for example

if you live in texas you have to travel to new mexico. if your in east texas its could be a 600 mile drive or longer. houston to the new mexico border is 750 miles. thats like chicago to new york.

in louisiana you woulr need to travel up toward illinois

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
10. I never said otherwise.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jun 2022

What I did say was that the Supreme Court did not ban abortion. There is a significant difference in how you address a ruling making abortion unconstitutional (this ruling did NOT make abortion unconstitutional) and how you address a ruling which allows each state to decide for itself (what this ruling did).

boston bean

(36,186 posts)
6. It is still a devastating decision in regards to women being full equal human beings.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jun 2022

It is an atrocity n

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
8. I never suggested otherwise.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:47 AM
Jun 2022

But the solution to a supreme court ban on abortion is very different from the solution which leaves the question of abortion up to the states. Far too many people do not understand the distinction.

An off-shore abortion ship is not a solution to a state-by-state patchwork of laws.

Rebl2

(13,303 posts)
9. My state
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:47 AM
Jun 2022

wants to make it illegal for a woman to go to another state that allows abortion, to go there and get one. If they find out you have done so, and someone helps you, not only will the woman be in trouble so will the person that helped you. They also want to make morning after pill and abortion pill illegal.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
11. Unfortunately, this decision opens the door to the latter (morning after pill), but not the former.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jun 2022

Barring travel for interstate commerce (i.e. to acquire services in another state) is classic dormant commerce clause. It is unconstitutional for states, as a general rule, to pass laws which discriminate in favor of (or against) their own residents in interstate commerce.

12. Go north?
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:32 PM
Jun 2022
Abortion is legal in Canada. It would be smart of some US groups to partner with Canadian providers to have permanent or mobile abortion services along the entire northern border.

There are groups in Mexico, where abortion was recently legalized, but is not always available that are working to help women in the US. This offers some choice for women along the southern border. But it is less of a sure thing that Canada.

It is still a shit decision and a shit situation.
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