Govt mandated pregnancy is SLAVERY. Forced pregnancy is SLAVERY. Lawyers should approach it thusly.

[CousinIT]

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/reproductive-rights-and-long-hand-slave-breeding/

. . .We don’t commonly recognize that American slaveholders supported closing the trans-Atlantic slave trade; that they did so to protect the domestic market, boosting their own nascent breeding operation. Women were the primary focus: their bodies, their “stock,” their reproductive capacity, their issue. Planters advertised for them in the same way as they did for breeding cows or mares, in farm magazines and catalogs. They shared tips with one another on how to get maximum value out of their breeders. They sold or lent enslaved men as studs and were known to lock teenage boys and girls together to mate in a kind of bullpen.They propagated new slaves themselves, and allowed their sons to, and had their physicians exploit female anatomy while working to suppress African midwives’ practice in areas of fertility, contraception and abortion.Reproduction and its control became the planters’ prerogative and profit source. Women could try to escape, ingest toxins or jump out a window—abortion by suicide, except it was hardly a sure thing.

[samnsara]

1. its illegal confinement for sure

[roamer65]

2. This is why I have equated it to AA slavery.

At its core, it is the same fascistic ideology at work.

We are nearing another 1860.

Free states vs Slave states.

Pro-choice vs anti-choice.

There are definite parallels.

[unblock]

5. I say it's a form of slavery, but I don't "equate" it to the type of slavery that ended in 1865

That type of slavery encompassed entire lives. A woman forced to remain pregnant has many of her life choices taken from her, but still has some freedom to move about, and make decisions that don't affect the pregnancy. Freedoms unavailable to pre-13th amendment slaves.

That said, forced pregnancy was a key aspect of slavery for some women, particularly once the kidnapping and importation of slaves was banned.

[roamer65]

6. You will soon.

They are just getting started with their abuse of power.

[unblock]

8. Well I do eventually figure they'll say the 13th amendment violates the freedom to enslave...

[unblock]

3. Agree completely. A woman's life and body placed in servitude against her will.

40 weeks with a long list of must do's and can't do's, impossible to get out of it, impossible to trade it to have done one else do it.

It's a job that's impossible to quit, never mind that she's not getting paid to do it. In fact, it costs her money.

Sure sounds like a violation of the 13th amendment to me.

[haele]

10. Wait until there are laws restricting the environment fertile women can be in.

Women of childbearing age will not be work in factories or labs that might affect a fetus if they become pregnant. Or be an artist working with potential fetal damaging components. Or do anything that might be dangerous...

Why should a company invest in a female who might become pregnant and and whose family might hold them liable for fetal abnormalities or a miscarriage? Why should a woman of childbearing age risk the legal hassle of defending a miscarriage or trying to avoid having children she can't or doesn't want to care for in those states.
Why should doctors learn lifesaving medical abortion surgical procedures to protect a woman during a pregnancy gone wrong if those same procedures can get them jailed or worse if someone with a grudge or making political points can accuse them of providing women with an "illegal" abortion?

We are now at the point we become Romania under Cesescue, except that wealthier women and their daughters who.can make quickly "shopping trips" to New York or California.
But if they don't watch it, even most of them might find themselves controlled by the law, if they or their "masters" piss off the wrong person's and they find themselves in the political out group.

Haele

[hlthe2b]

4. I agree. That and equal protection are the arguments that should have been used for ROE

But it is all academic until we restructure the entire SCOTUS top to bottom.

[vsrazdem]

7. It is involuntary servitude - 13th amendment.

[musette_sf]

9. Per the UN,

gestational slavery is torture.