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Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:37 PM Jun 2022

So, is there going to be a mass migration of young women moving outside the 1850 States?

Too bad the blue states aren't in a position to assure them guarantees of educations and jobs. It would leave the Southern states depleted of a future.

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So, is there going to be a mass migration of young women moving outside the 1850 States? (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 OP
I should think big businesses will... Not all are run by Elon Musk a'hole types. hlthe2b Jun 2022 #1
I would leave if I was young, especially if unmarried. nt Ilsa Jun 2022 #2
Yes. roamer65 Jun 2022 #3
I would recommend WI, MI, or PA since we could use more reliable liberal votes in those States... TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #12
GrOPers would be happy if pro-choicers fled red/purple states. More secure Senate seats. RockRaven Jun 2022 #4
Not if we put an end to the electoral college. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #6
Yeah, but how does the EC get gotten rid of? Dems must control enough states first to do that. RockRaven Jun 2022 #11
Influx of families to blue states . .. . Lovie777 Jun 2022 #5
Businesses would be a huge factor. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #8
Nope. TPTB marched my ancestors to this land (OK) and I'm NOT leaving. Runningdawg Jun 2022 #7
Reservations are immune from all this mess, aren't they? Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #9
We're about to find out. Runningdawg Jun 2022 #14
"Not every Native votes blue, but we are untied on sovereignty." Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #16
Actually the red-voting natives were raised by parents and grandparents who Runningdawg Jun 2022 #17
This is exactly the result that the GOP is trying to get with all the Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #19
There will be far fewer adoptions when they begin forced sterilization. Runningdawg Jun 2022 #22
Yes. They are turning us into livestock. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #23
I am going to personally boycott all states that subjugate women. Moostache Jun 2022 #10
I do that with Indiana already when traveling to Chicago. roamer65 Jun 2022 #15
LOL! Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #20
Two signs I watch for on those trips. roamer65 Jun 2022 #21
wouldn't it be easier to do two things Tickle Jun 2022 #13
Have they banned D&Cs yet? The "privileged" have use this for decades. nt Samrob Jun 2022 #18
I doubt it. onenote Jun 2022 #24

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
3. Yes.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:51 PM
Jun 2022

Come to Michigan, liberal ladies!

Legal abortion, legal MJ and tons of fresh water and scenic lakeshores.

The Water Winter Wonderland.

TheRealNorth

(9,474 posts)
12. I would recommend WI, MI, or PA since we could use more reliable liberal votes in those States...
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:04 PM
Jun 2022

But MN is also good.

The bonus is that there will still be fresh water and there won't be coastal flooding in 20-30 years.

And if the cold weather is a problem, global warming may mitigate that some too.

RockRaven

(14,950 posts)
4. GrOPers would be happy if pro-choicers fled red/purple states. More secure Senate seats.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:52 PM
Jun 2022

Control of the Senate = control of the courts = control of the country.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
6. Not if we put an end to the electoral college.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:54 PM
Jun 2022

It would be a disaster for Florida. They rely on constant churning in the real estate market.

RockRaven

(14,950 posts)
11. Yeah, but how does the EC get gotten rid of? Dems must control enough states first to do that.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:00 PM
Jun 2022

So again we're left with GrOPers being happy if Dems flee their states.

Runningdawg

(4,514 posts)
7. Nope. TPTB marched my ancestors to this land (OK) and I'm NOT leaving.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:55 PM
Jun 2022

Time to find out just how sovereign the tribes really are.

A nation is not conquered until the hearts of its women are on the ground. Then its finished; no matter how brave its warriors or how strong their weapons. Cheyenne proverb

Runningdawg

(4,514 posts)
14. We're about to find out.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:14 PM
Jun 2022

Not covered by the MSM is the ongoing fight between the tribes and the state of OK. In a recent reelection ad our governor, Stitt, stated he "wrestled power away from the tribes" The ad disappeared for a while, the tribes sued and won, now the ad is back minus that phrase. He claims this despite the recent opinion of the SCOTUS for tribes on McGirt v Oklahoma, giving a massive portion of land in NE OK back to the tribes. The Cherokee Chief announced as of Sept.1, the OK flag would be banned from tribal lands. He recently reversed his position on that issue. Not every Native votes blue, but we are untied on sovereignty.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
16. "Not every Native votes blue, but we are untied on sovereignty."
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:19 PM
Jun 2022

I would say that surprises me about the Native votes, but I do understand that this probably is due to the time when Southern Democrats controlled the Senate.

Runningdawg

(4,514 posts)
17. Actually the red-voting natives were raised by parents and grandparents who
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:41 PM
Jun 2022

were indoctrinated at boarding schools. A large portion of them identify and vote as christian.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
19. This is exactly the result that the GOP is trying to get with all the
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:43 PM
Jun 2022

anti-wake legislation and forced pregnancies that will lead to adoption.

Runningdawg

(4,514 posts)
22. There will be far fewer adoptions when they begin forced sterilization.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 03:24 PM
Jun 2022

Conservatives in OK are promising to end government hand outs. Requiring women to be sterilized before their living children can have food, housing and medical care is their plan to rid society of those they consider less than human.
I am a woman living in red state. Today, I became livestock, living under christian rule.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
10. I am going to personally boycott all states that subjugate women.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 12:56 PM
Jun 2022

No visits, trips, stays, conferences or entry except to pass through.
No commerce - I will buy enough gas to pass through without stopping or bring spare gas cans if necessary..
No buying goods or services from such places - no food, no beverages, no restaurants, nothing.

No positive endorsements to others about such places.

In fact, I am going to also ask anyone I associate with if they support women's rights to control their own bodies - not have abortions, but have bodily autonomy. If they answer "no", I am going to ask them for a kidney to freeze as a spare in case I need one later. I am also going to cordially inite them to leave and darken my doorstep no more.

Will these actions matter?
Not if I remain alone in the efforts...but it will help me sleep and look into the eyes of my wife and 3 daughters to know that I am refusing to participate in treating them as second class citizens.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
15. I do that with Indiana already when traveling to Chicago.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jun 2022

I stop long enough to piss on it, that’s it.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
21. Two signs I watch for on those trips.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:48 PM
Jun 2022

Welcome to Illinois on the way there and Welcome to Pure Michigan on the way back.

Tickle

(2,506 posts)
13. wouldn't it be easier to do two things
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:05 PM
Jun 2022

vote in local politics to change the law if your state doesn't provide abortions

or

Drive to a state that does perform abortions

You don't have to migrate to other states

onenote

(42,660 posts)
24. I doubt it.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 04:30 PM
Jun 2022

Moving is a big deal and I suspect that there a lot of women who support a women's right to an abortion who don't necessarily think they will need an abortion (or who believe they'll be able to get one in a neighboring state, which would be far less disruptive than giving up their jobs and homes to relocate).

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