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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden refusing to allow Supreme Court decision to turn into a Friday news dump day.
He's on now rattling the saber. So far, he's officially declaring open season for campaigning for November. Vote for Democrats. Pro-choice is on the ballot.
GOOD NEWS: He's going to fight against any States that try to interfere with women traveling to other states for abortions. Or that interferes with medicines or tries to use data to track women who are seeking abortions.
I think he's ready to start governing by executive order?
He's really trashing the Supreme Court.
Final words: This is not over. More to come in coming weeks.
dweller
(23,632 posts)Mulling time is over Joe
executive order time is now
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dalton99a
(81,485 posts)quakerboy
(13,920 posts)Even though the SCOTUS will shut it down ASAP.. the message is the thing we have right now. The citizens of this nation need to know that democrats are with them and will do everything we legally can to support their rights, dignity, and freedom.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)He knew this was coming for months. Hell, the draft of the order was made public the first week of May. There should be a plethora of EOs on Biden's desk to be signed the moment that SCOTUS issued its decision.
Don't mull, DO!
dameatball
(7,397 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)I like it when he comes out angry.
mvd
(65,173 posts)Cant NOT be angry today.
Rebl2
(13,501 posts)he seemed angry
dameatball
(7,397 posts)txwhitedove
(3,928 posts)OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)close to the sun, but only if the Dems get the fuck angry and motivated by this. If they do, all bets are off for November and 2024.
agingdem
(7,849 posts)I think Joe knows the vile Court Six handed the Dems a big midterm win...memories are short but nobody tells a woman what she can and cannot do with her body...Republican women will hold their noses and vote Democrat for their daughters and granddaughters
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)we're about to see who has been wearing swimming trunks !
bigendian
(1,042 posts)mvd
(65,173 posts)Everything should be on the table to right the wrong of this malicious decision! I am beyond mad today. Democrats must vote in groves this fall!
bdamomma
(63,849 posts)Why not????? The Bush Administration did it, every time you looked Georgie boy was executing Executive orders.
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)Pull every govt dime from states that refuse to respect women's rights. Give them no quarter. Literally.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)I think when states start to restrict travel or medications the justice dept will step in, sure this has been in the works and ready for this to happen.
Hopefully young voters will remember in a few months about the guns and womens rights is on the ballot.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Finally wake people up
but I am not going to hold
my breath its not like this is a surprise to anyone whos been paying attention.
housecat
(3,121 posts)SpankMe
(2,957 posts)...is the very definition of interstate activity that the federal government is entitled to regulate. Joe should be able to come down hard on asshole states that try to punish women and their supporters for going across state lines for reproductive care.
These red states that want to forbid going to another state to do something that is perfectly legal in that state are full of crap!
Stay in your own fucking lane, douchebags!
cloudboy07
(351 posts)ShazzieB
(16,393 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)cloudboy07
(351 posts)Get rid of the federal Supreme's at federal level! these 9 clown's should not have that much power in republic such as our's ! why should they the tell the U.S. people what's right & what's wrong ? you all these buzzard's getting paid because their smart ! look what they did today ! just a power struggle of republican's & MOSCOW MITCH ! put the RNC out business! just might be that GITMO is going too get back in action ? we shall see ?
Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)monitor whether they go to another state for an abortion is to set up an extensive surveillance system on their private lives. Did you buy a pregnancy test at a local pharmacy using a credit card? Someone from the state will be calling to find out whether the test was positive. The other option here is to make home pregnancy tests illegal and require that they be used only in a pharmacy that is required to report the results of the test, along with a womans name, address, and phone number.
The NYT this week had an article about how Christian crisis pregnancy centers take data about women and share it with political agencies to track them. A woman who googles abortion help will first be shown misleading sites for these pregnancy centers that offer medical advice when their goal is to stop an abortion. For example, they do an ultrasound and then lie to women that theyre already 12 weeks pregnant and are too late for a medication abortion when that is not the case at all. These fake Christians lie to women, use disinformation and misleading advertising, and harass those who leave their centers after they find out that they only proselytize and do not offer abortions by repeatedly calling them to demand whether they ended their pregnancies. In violation of medical privacy laws, they report their information to state agencies.
Missouri already has a model set up to track womens periods to ensure they do not have an abortion. This is from an article in the Guardian in 2019:
As it turns out, the [Missouri] DHSS is so concerned about womens health it has been keeping spreadsheets tracking the date of Planned Parenthood patients periods, in an attempt to figure out which of them had undergone failed abortions. Let me just repeat that: American government officials are tracking the menstrual cycles of thousands of women. But, you know, its for their own good so dont worry about it.
Amazingly, we learned about the period spreadsheets because Dr Randall Williams, the director of DHSS clearly thinking there was a nothing creepy about the affair openly testified about them on Tuesday. Meanwhile Planned Parenthood and the doctors at the clinic had no idea these spreadsheets existed and were being used in this manner. Outrage rightly ensued.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2019/nov/02/if-the-government-tracks-womens-periods-why-not-track-male-ejaculation-too
IronLionZion
(45,439 posts)With Roe gone, many conservatives might have nothing else they care about.
intrepidity
(7,296 posts)I now believe that they will shift to *keeping abortion illegal* as their big rallying cry. :sigh:
Zealots gonna zealot.
flying_wahini
(6,594 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)There is no one better than Joe to fight this war.
Aviation Pro
(12,167 posts)Womens are long.
The 5+1 of the Gilead court didnt figure that in their calculus.
calimary
(81,253 posts)Big Brothers gonna be doing more than just watching you.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)My guess, not much. Fed contracts for Underground Railroad-like organizations?
samnsara
(17,622 posts)cloudboy07
(351 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)Just to review the current make up of the SCOTUS: Roberts (Dubya), Ginny's husband (Dubya's Dad), Breyer (Clinton), Alito (Dubya), Sotomayor (Obama), Kagan (Obama), Gorsuch (TFG), Barrett (TFG), Kavanaugh (TFG). That's six justices appointed by Repug presidents, or rather three by Repug presidents and three by an amoral RINO con man whose biggest campaign promise -- other than "Build The Wall" (not Pink Floyd's version) -- was that he would appoint only judges and justices who would overturn Roe v. Wade. Each of T***p's SCOTUS nominees lied through the their teeth when they said Roe was "settled law."
Both Dubya and TFG were elected by a minority of voters. And even though a sizeable majority of voters want abortion to be legal, a 50 year issue that we thought had been decided has been destroyed in the blink of an eye. With "trigger laws" in place, abortion will be illegal in 13 states within the next month Seven more states are likely to ban the procedure.
A federal law codifying the right to abortion could resolve this matter, but with Manchin's commitment to obstructing any progressive legislation, and the possibility of the House switching hands because of the sizeable number of people who always vote against their own interests (aka, "The Base" ) , the chance of any meaningful legislation being passed in the next decade is slim.
The religious crazies will be emboldened to ram their draconian agenda down our throats. They've already said they're going to eliminate birth control, even among married couples. After all, "every sperm is sacred." Clearly gay marriage is in the sights, and if they thought they could get away with it, outlawing interracial marriage would closely follow.
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)compensation of the American public. That is a major flaw in the American experiment. Who knew they were capable of stopping this country from growing and meeting the needs of a growing population.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)I mean, what happens here? Let's say I'm a 30 something woman who lives in Texas and I'm going to California to visit friends/family. Along with going through the normal security stuff, will I also have to take a pregnancy test before I leave the state, and then another one when I come back?
Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)that will opt for physical force because they now think they have the law on their side. No doubt they share Trump's goon style of threatening people