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867-5309.

(1,189 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:05 PM Jun 2022

Thomas: SCOTUS should reconsider right to contraception, same-sex sexual activity, gay marriage

...Then, he took aim at three other landmark cases that relied on that same legal reasoning: Griswold v. Connecticut, a 1965 decision that declared married couples had a right to contraception; Lawrence v. Texas, a 2003 case invalidating sodomy laws and making same-sex sexual activity legal across the country; and Obergefell v. Hodges, the 2015 case establishing the right of gay couples to marry.

Justice Thomas wrote that the court “should reconsider” all three decisions, saying it had a duty to “correct the error” established in those precedents. Then, he said, after “overruling these demonstrably erroneous decisions, the question would remain whether other constitutional provisions” protected the rights they established.

This kind of language is just what advocates for reproductive rights and for L.G.B.T.Q. rights have been fearing. Defenders of the right to abortion have repeatedly warned that if Roe fell, the right to contraception and same-sex marriage would be next...


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/24/us/clarence-thomas-roe-griswold-lawrence-obergefell.html

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Does he want to bring back the Dred Scott and Plessy vs Ferguson decisions, too? Aristus Jun 2022 #1
Isn't this kind of a slippery slope for old Clarence seeing as he's in a bi-racial marriage? Vinca Jun 2022 #2
Not really. Loving v VA relied on the equal protection clause onenote Jun 2022 #4
Obergefell was based on equal protection too. Frasier Balzov Jun 2022 #9
Obergefell cited the synergy between the equal protection clause and due process clause onenote Jun 2022 #11
Is he going to go after Loving vs. Virginia? 33taw Jun 2022 #3
See post #4. onenote Jun 2022 #5
Just give Texas a chance and they will pass a law. Honestly, I do not expect this to happen. 33taw Jun 2022 #13
Its so weird d_r Jun 2022 #6
Wonder why he left out interracial marriage.. Beachnutt Jun 2022 #7
I'm wondering the same thing -- he's slime, knew it watching his confirmation, know it now Lettuce Be Jun 2022 #15
Because, as pointed out elsewhere in this thread, Loving was based on a different constitutional onenote Jun 2022 #19
And of course the treason weasel's husband, the most useless of useless pieces of shit, Comfortably_Numb Jun 2022 #8
Don't forget that Scopes was found guilty, and the SCOTUS overturned that ruling. Binkie The Clown Jun 2022 #10
About inter-racial marriages? sinkingfeeling Jun 2022 #12
Anyone who thinks this guy is going to be forced to retire is completely off their rocker. Ace Rothstein Jun 2022 #14
KnR Hekate Jun 2022 #16
Why do these "errors " have to be corrected ? Boomerproud Jun 2022 #17
He is a vile, nasty monster in a robe IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #18

onenote

(42,700 posts)
4. Not really. Loving v VA relied on the equal protection clause
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:10 PM
Jun 2022

Thomas' objections are based on his opposition to the concept of substantive due process. So he could (and probably would) distinguish Loving from those other cases.

For the record, I'm explaining how he would distinguish it, not why. And I'm certainly not endorsing his view on substantive due process.

Frasier Balzov

(2,646 posts)
9. Obergefell was based on equal protection too.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:17 PM
Jun 2022

So Thomas will need to trim that concept back to race alone.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
11. Obergefell cited the synergy between the equal protection clause and due process clause
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:47 PM
Jun 2022

but equal protection wasn't really a separate, independent basis for the decision, as it was in Loving.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
5. See post #4.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:10 PM
Jun 2022

Last edited Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Also, I'm unaware of any state that still has a law on the books that bars inter-racial marriage, so I'm not sure how such a case could be brought.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
19. Because, as pointed out elsewhere in this thread, Loving was based on a different constitutional
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 01:56 AM
Jun 2022

provision.

The equal protection clause was the primary (and an independent) basis for striking down inter-racial marriage bans. Roe did not rely on the equal protection clause.

Comfortably_Numb

(3,806 posts)
8. And of course the treason weasel's husband, the most useless of useless pieces of shit,
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:12 PM
Jun 2022

said the quiet part out loud. “Fuck you plebes, I’ll strip away every one of your rights in retaliation for calling me a disgusting pervert in my confirmation hearings.” Even though Clarence the clown is a disgusting pervert.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
10. Don't forget that Scopes was found guilty, and the SCOTUS overturned that ruling.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:23 PM
Jun 2022

They should reexamine that ruling too, and make the teaching of evolution a crime again.

After all, they cannot let such heresy stand. Accepting the literal truth of the Bible should be made the law of the land once more.

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
17. Why do these "errors " have to be corrected ?
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 03:51 PM
Jun 2022

Pretty full of himself making any civil right illegal because he doesn't like it.

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
18. He is a vile, nasty monster in a robe
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 01:31 AM
Jun 2022

He loves hurting people - from Anita Hill as an individual, to many vulnerable groups. It's obvious this asshole's goal in making it to the ECOTUS was to inflict pain and misery, and tear apart freedom and rights. No doubt he is loving being on an extreme, right-wing activist court, and knowing they can cause more damage. Yesterday was just the beginning.

You know what error needs to be corrected? You being on the Court. Confirming you was a mistake then. It's become a bigger mistake with each passing day of your heartless, evil ass holding one of those 9 seats.

Even terrorists don't hate America the way this creep does.

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