The Jewish abortion rights lawsuit in FL may save abortion rights....

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https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/jewish-abortion-rights-advocates-use-religious-freedom-suit-access-rcna34178

The Christian Right is violating the First Amendment by banning abortion
Imposing Christian morality and Christian dogma on non-Christians is a good working definition of religious tyranny.

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But not everyone is Christian. And imposing Christian morality and Christian dogma on non-Christians is a good working definition of religious tyranny — which the First Amendment of the Constitution explicitly rejects.

That principle of religious freedom is the basis of a lawsuit brought by Congregation L’Dor Va-Dor, a synagogue in Boynton Beach, Florida, against a sweeping state abortion ban set to take effect on July 1. Congregation L’Dor Va-Dor is challenging a single law on behalf of a single religion. But the case is also a broader challenge to the anti-abortion rights movement, which conflates a right-wing Christian demand for forced birth with universal morality, and insists on subjugating the country to a sectarian code.

The new Florida law bans most abortions after 15 weeks. There are no exceptions for cases of incest, rape or human trafficking. It does allow an abortion to save a pregnant person’s life or to prevent serious physical injury. But these exceptions aren’t enough to keep the law from violating the free exercise of the Jewish faith. The congregation’s lawsuit states that the Florida law violates Jewish religious beliefs holding that abortion “is required if necessary to protect the health, mental or physical well-being of the woman,” among other reasons.


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[Ziggysmom]

1. SCOTUS is illegitimate. They say guns are so important they need to be protected and ruled

by a national federal standard and individual states cannot interfere. But WOMEN ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS GUNS?? The states are free to impose and restrict us at will?

[Johnny2X2X]

2. Hopeful

But the fact is, this is no longer a legal issue, it is a purely [political one and the Supreme Court will not rule based on the law anymore, but based on politics.

[Voltaire2]

3. It will go nowhere.

[sop]

7. This anti-Roe decision was based solely on christian religious beliefs.

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All religious beliefs, not just christian beliefs, are protected under the First Amendment: "shall make no law...prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this.

[localroger]

8. Christian beliefs practiced by six obnoxiously Christian SC justices

Do you honestly think there is any chance they have a microgram of respect for other religions?

[sop]

4. Abortion as a First Amendment right is a powerful argument.

If it can be shown anti-abortion laws violate the free exercise of the Jewish (or any) faith, there's good precedent supporting that right.

[haele]

5. I wouldn't depend on it.

Legal folks can always claim that since ritual human sacrifice is still considered murder under State and Federal statutes and deemed to be harmful religious practices involving children can be banned, a State can determine that a particular religion's affirmation to a practice of a right to abortion does not outweigh the State's right to legislatively regulate abortion.

These are hard nosed Theocrats. They don't recognize any religion but their own power base.

Haele

[peggysue2]

6. These are the type of legal arguments and lawsuits I suspect we'll see

Imposing Christian morality on the American public is absolutely an infringement of religious freedom for non-Christians and non-believers alike.

Republicans have whacked a hornet's nest with this decision, another example of religious and political extremism. Thomas's final comments will further enrage the public bc he expressly says that contraception, same sex relationships and marriage are next.

Now, we need to turn the rage into VOTES at all levels--local, state and national. Push the extremists into the deep blue sea! President Biden has started the drumbeat. The American electorate needs to follow through.

Vote as if your very life depended on it. Because this is the day, June 24, 2022, that everyone should realize:

It Absolutely Does.

[intheflow]

9. There are liberal Christians and other faith groups

that could join together and have their own suit. The UCC, wings of the Methodist church, wings of the Presbyterians, Lutherans, Unitarian Universalists, Buddhists…. Just a dream…

[Buckeyeblue]

10. It's a religious exception argument. I'm not a big fan.

The original Roe argument still makes the most sense, that the various amendments in the constitution create a right to privacy. It really says the constitution should be read as 1 whole document not a series of individual documents.

Originalist claim each amendment is essentially a separate document and doesn't inform on the others. Which, to me, doesn't make sense, because the constitution is still considered a single document.

Essentially, new Christians read the Bible the same way. Not as a single document but as a series of verses that are contextually separate from each other. This is how they get passed all of the contradictions in the Bible.