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The vote to overturn Roe was 5-4 not 6-3 (Original Post) Tomconroy Jun 2022 OP
It is worth a fart in the wind. To me. dchill Jun 2022 #1
It's not funny, but... Solomon Jun 2022 #6
It's funny that the Chief Justice thinks it will save ... dchill Jun 2022 #12
Thanks. Nt spooky3 Jun 2022 #2
Robert Barnes' tweet within seconds of the decision said mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2022 #3
Once Again Roberts Gets To Pretend To Be A Sensible Guy leftieNanner Jun 2022 #4
A distinction with no difference. irisblue Jun 2022 #5
And next is LiberalArkie Jun 2022 #14
It is worth shit. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #7
I've been saying RBG's seat could have made the difference. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2022 #8
It didn't FBaggins Jun 2022 #13
If I understand correctly, his opinion would be to evicerate roe without declaring it dead unblock Jun 2022 #9
Yes and no FBaggins Jun 2022 #10
If Roberts opinion prevailed there would still be a constitutional Tomconroy Jun 2022 #15
True enough - but few would spin it as "upholding Roe" FBaggins Jun 2022 #16
Anyone Defending Roberts is an idiot, Roberts is trying to protect his rep RANDYWILDMAN Jun 2022 #11
Crappy presidents appoint crappy jurists. Xoan Jun 2022 #17

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
3. Robert Barnes' tweet within seconds of the decision said
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:23 PM
Jun 2022

6-3, but in the first four paragraphs of the article in the WaPo he nowhere stated what the numbers were. That could change with editing.

irisblue

(32,932 posts)
5. A distinction with no difference.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:25 PM
Jun 2022

I know Nina Totenberg, SCOTUS reporter for NPR was saying this earlier today. It makes no difference in real life.

edited. Tweets from Steve Inskeep from his conversation with Totenberg.


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LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
14. And next is
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:37 PM
Jun 2022

"right to contraception",
"sex between consenting adult men",
"same-sex marriage"
"inter-racial sex and marriage"
"sex between un married couples" ie adultery.

All those were against the law when I was a kid.
Also pornography.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
13. It didn't
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:35 PM
Jun 2022

Scalia/Garland/Gorsuch's seat did.

Without losing RBG's seat - it would have been Roberts' decision... which still would have effectively undone the common understanding of Roe/Casey and allowed states to return to regulating abortion at least back to about the end of the first trimester.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
9. If I understand correctly, his opinion would be to evicerate roe without declaring it dead
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:30 PM
Jun 2022

He wanted to merely approve laws that violate roe without declaring that roe is no more, and leave it to future cases to make roe's death obvious.

In short, he agreed with overturning roe but was too cowardly to own up to it.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
10. Yes and no
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:31 PM
Jun 2022

If Roberts' opinion were read on its own... many would interpret it as overturning Roe.

voted simply to uphold the Miss. ban on abortions after 15 weeks

Which could not occur under Roe/Casey.

I agree with the Court that the viability line established by Roe and Casey should be discarded under a straightforward stare decisis analysis. That line never made any sense.

...snip...

Let me begin with my agreement with the Court, on the only question we need decide here: whether to retain the
rule from Roe and Casey that a woman’s right to terminate her pregnancy extends up to the point that the fetus is regarded as “viable” outside the womb. I agree that this rule should be discarded.

First, this Court seriously erred in Roe...

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,664 posts)
11. Anyone Defending Roberts is an idiot, Roberts is trying to protect his rep
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 01:31 PM
Jun 2022

nothing more, he is a self serving CON, just like the rest of them, he just just does not want his legacy drug through the mud. Too late John.

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