Impact Analysis on Birth: Cost per child & can states handle adding tens of thousands per year?

[TheBlackAdder]

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Is this a truly sustainable position?


A very basic and unscientific SWAG seems to indicate that just adding 10K births every year will bankrupt states.

And with the 800 hundred thousand abortions performed each year in the USA, this cost number will be higher.


I hope these Fiscal Conservatives enjoy paying taxes.



Driving those RED States into further economic collapse as each extra child adds over $320K in costs

You can't put a price on life, actually you can. Every extra birth, above the stasis drives up taxes.

Between education, childcare, medical costs, food supplements, those who can afford to get abortions will, which places the lion's share of births on lower-income families that will have a higher demand for public assistance.


All of those tax-saving fiscal conservatives will do is drive up their local and state property taxes and put their hand out for more federal socialism. Rick Perry tried this shit years ago and in less than one year over 7,000 extra births resulted. It was so bad, he abandoned it. Imagine the simple compounding of just 10,000 extra births each and every year at a cost of $320K per kid over 18 years. This applies to average states, not low-education states like Idaho that pay around $8K per child for education and produde equally poor performers.


Example: 10K kids per year for 18 years will add $3.2 billion to the state tax requirements.


Year 1) 10000 x $12,000/year (birthing, food, heat, utilities, medical costs, daycare, etc.) = $120,000,000 increased taxes
Year 2) Now 20,000 x $12,000/year = $240M
Year 3) Now 30,000 x 12,000/year = $360M
Year 4) $360M + (10000 x $18000/year) (as education starts to kick in) = $360M + $180M = $540M
Continue compounding $180M each year until the oldest kids become emancipated.

And the above example is in 2019 numbers, not adjusted for costs and inflation.


Now, the problem is that no one seems to mention this. I don't know if it's a taboo subject to actually state that life does cost, but one thing is certain, Republicans don't care about the impact to the woman. This argument does not convince them at all. Just demand a financial impact analysis on this subject.

The only way to get to Republicans is to state what it will cost to them and their own families.

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[Cerridwen]

1. What makes you think states will pick up the costs?

I seem to remember several states refused to expand Medicaid when given the option and the money to do so.

The radical right are going after Medicare in the not too distant future. You think they stop there and they don't go after Medicaid?

Poor people will be living on the streets in greater numbers. That will include those with children. They are unspooling the entire safety net one ruling, one law at a time.

They like making people suffer. When do people start seeing that?

[inthewind21]

2. Apparently never

[Pantagruel]

3. Unwanted children,

the definition of aborted fetuses, cost more to society. Higher incarceration and mental health expenses and lower educational achievements contributing.

[pansypoo53219]

4. when women get state child support + costs skyrocket will we get our rights back?

are we romania or east germany now?

[eleny]

5. Do a search for "Family Caps" and TANF

A family already receiving TANF benefits doesn't receive an increase in financial assistance for additional children born. TANF replaced the old AFDC program which increased financial assistance when the head of household gave birth to additional children.

And the benefits are temporary. There's a 60 month time limit. States can only allow 20% of its TANF population to keep receiving a financial benefit based on needs.

This isn't the Federal Register web page and much easy to grasp.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/family-income-support/temporary-assistance-for-needy-families

Things can get pretty bad very fast, imo.

[renate]

6. States won't ever pay for housing or shoes or daycare

But surely they’ll have to pay for WIC, schooling, and Medicaid for those below the poverty line... right? Or do those states not even have Medicaid?