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ColinC

(8,547 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 04:11 PM Jun 2022

Will Roe V Wade tip the midterms towards Democrats?

Will this ruling result in Democrats gaining seats in both houses for the midterms?


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Yes
11 (20%)
No
15 (28%)
Maybe
24 (44%)
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4 (7%)
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Will Roe V Wade tip the midterms towards Democrats? (Original Post) ColinC Jun 2022 OP
In this economy? genxlib Jun 2022 #1
Yeah, well ..... LenaBaby61 Jun 2022 #7
People care more about spending an extra $40 a week on gas than they care about bodily autonomy. LonePirate Jun 2022 #13
this must be your opinion because i don't see ANY FACTS in your message text. Trueblue1968 Jun 2022 #32
See the post I was responding to above. LonePirate Jun 2022 #34
+1 Claustrum Jun 2022 #14
Also knowing how many of my friends / neighbors watch Fox... Initech Jun 2022 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2022 #2
one suspects people most affected are the least likely to vote nt msongs Jun 2022 #3
If we GOTV n/t AntiFascist Jun 2022 #4
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Jun 2022 #5
I hope so, but I'm certainly not certain...nt Wounded Bear Jun 2022 #6
I doubt it very much. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #8
Maybe but we need to make it happen by GOTV. Elessar Zappa Jun 2022 #9
If you had ForgedCrank Jun 2022 #10
I am very interested to see if the governor race in TX would shift into the democrat direction Claustrum Jun 2022 #15
I went with the "Maybe" option for a number of reasons. Jedi Guy Jun 2022 #11
More than enough shit has happened that we could have easily capitalized on ecstatic Jun 2022 #12
No. It's the economy stupid Azathoth Jun 2022 #16
With the exception of inflation, isn't the economy actually pretty good? ColinC Jun 2022 #17
Pretty much. It's certainly not the same situation as when Carville coined his phrase in 1992 Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2022 #26
The three parts that people care about suck though Polybius Jun 2022 #35
This,1000% NewsCenter28 Jun 2022 #18
Fear you're 110% correct liberalmediaaddict Jun 2022 #29
Maybe leaning towards Yes electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #19
I have little confident that this will be the issue that tip voters to our side In It to Win It Jun 2022 #20
We need to make sure we focus hard on abortion rights and voting rights. gulliver Jun 2022 #21
I think it will help more than hurt and could mean the difference in a few close races nt Quixote1818 Jun 2022 #22
it narrows the "enthusiasm gap" at least pstokely Jun 2022 #23
Depends on women Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #24
It's one of multiple things. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #27
Who knows anymore liberalmediaaddict Jun 2022 #28
Probably not LeftInTX Jun 2022 #30
Rutgers-Eagleton Center for American Women & Politics (45% of women voted paternalistic since 1974). TheBlackAdder Jun 2022 #31
My guess is that high gas and food prices will trump women's rights. Kaleva Jun 2022 #33
It will if the party takes advantage of the burst of energy that is going on now. lees1975 Jun 2022 #36
Maybe.. that and other issues.. I HOPE Cha Jun 2022 #37
If Democrats explain to voters exactly how to remedy this mess, ecstatic Jun 2022 #38

LenaBaby61

(6,990 posts)
7. Yeah, well .....
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 04:22 PM
Jun 2022

I guess their answer is to keep having babies and go further into debt with NO help from the federal government IE: Child Tax Credits, which the GQP says cost too much. Wait, I thought they loved the fetus? Oh that's right, they ONLY love the fetus, but hate the child.

It's more than just about Roe. Right to privacy etc. is on the ballot.

Trueblue1968

(17,327 posts)
32. this must be your opinion because i don't see ANY FACTS in your message text.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:03 PM
Jun 2022

I googled your post title .... THERE IS NOT ONE SINGLE LINK that could substantiate what you posted.

I am "A PEOPLE" and I sure don't agree with your premise.

LonePirate

(13,503 posts)
34. See the post I was responding to above.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:21 PM
Jun 2022

People are justifiably upset today. I don't think that anger will persist through November; but high gas prices aren't going anywhere. People will still see daily reminders about those high prices come election and they will punish the party of the President.

Like it or not but American voters as a whole have exceptionally short attention spans. The media focus on SCOTUS removing rights for the first time in our history will have moved on. if today is any indication, our elected officials in DC, barring one or two like Warren and AOC, did not possess the fire or anger I was hoping to see. Today's decision is a declaration of war by SCOTUS and Republicans and too many of our federal officials still want to play by the rules.

Where are the calls for impeaching those lying justices? Where are the statements from our leaders in the House, Senate and Executive Branch championing Mondaire Jones' bill to expand the Court? Where is the push for Manchin and Sinema to strike down the filibuster for abortion rights? Everybody knew this day was coming but only a few in DC seem to want to do anything about it. It's shameful.

Response to ColinC (Original post)

ForgedCrank

(1,835 posts)
10. If you had
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 04:25 PM
Jun 2022

asked me a similar question a month ago, I would have to answer differently.
But I do think this is going to reverse the course of the current trend.
I'm betting on a Democratic victory across the board in November if we play this properly.
But to do that, we need to keep our feet on the ground and stick to hard facts. The hyperbole and emotions right now are not going to be effective. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Claustrum

(4,855 posts)
15. I am very interested to see if the governor race in TX would shift into the democrat direction
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 04:43 PM
Jun 2022

in the coming months. Texas being the center of the abortion and gun debate. That is a signal for me if people are paying attention to what the republican are doing to the country, or are they still stuck too much on inflation.

If I have to bet though, I still think the golden rule in politics is too strong. "it's the economy, stupid". I really hope I am wrong though.

Jedi Guy

(3,307 posts)
11. I went with the "Maybe" option for a number of reasons.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 04:28 PM
Jun 2022

The electorate tends to have short memories. We're a little over four months out from the midterms. For a lot of voters, this will likely end up being background noise that fades to a hum between now and then, especially as the usual summer shootings and other insanity pushes it out of their minds.

This series of wins for the right will also fire them up, and you'd better believe their leaders will find something else to keep them riled up, such as LGBTQ rights issues, CRT, etc. etc. They've got plenty of bugaboos to work with to keep their base amped up. So while this will certainly fire up the Democratic base, it'll cancel out to some extent.

And possibly the biggest reason is that a lot of people care much more about kitchen table issues like inflation, the economy, the price of gas and food, etc. Those concerns are almost always top of mind in any election, so if those concerns still exist in November, and it seems like that'll be the case, I think that's where most people will be coming from when they vote.

Then there are the historical precedents of the party in power facing headwinds in the midterms, which is a whole other ball of wax.

ecstatic

(32,933 posts)
12. More than enough shit has happened that we could have easily capitalized on
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 04:32 PM
Jun 2022

Covid, the coup, endless gun massacres... the list goes on and on. Who knows what will happen, but we do have a way of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. lol

Azathoth

(4,612 posts)
16. No. It's the economy stupid
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:10 PM
Jun 2022

This election is fundamentally structured against us. Out of control inflation and gas prices combined with perpetual rolling shortages of goods and services and a general sense of economic dysfunction and an imminent recession -- this stuff is felt by everyone.

Liberals look at "issue" polls and convince themselves they speak for the vast silent majority on issues like abortion. They don't. Yes, technically a majority support Roe v. Wade as a concept, but there is also a *significant* minority of the country opposed to abortion, and the soft middle voters who tip the polls pro-choice more often vote on things like their perceived economic pain.

ColinC

(8,547 posts)
17. With the exception of inflation, isn't the economy actually pretty good?
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:50 PM
Jun 2022

With consideration to job growth, wages increasing, etc?

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
18. This,1000%
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:55 PM
Jun 2022

As of today, Trump is on the glide path for a re-election in 2024, the house and senate are almost certainly gone, as is the PA governorship. Check out 538. The math is brutal. This midterm is going to make the 2010 midterm and 1994 midterm look like a picnic for us. All because of selfish assholes shouting "Inflaaaaaaaaaatiiiiiiooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnn." The typical American voter doesn't care about dead kids (unless it is their own), minority rights, or even contraception. For some reason, the price of fucking gas fucking trumps all that??

Democratic politicians could never say this but I'll say it. The typical American voter is an egotistical know-nothing misinformed illiterate selfish psychopathic asshole.

liberalmediaaddict

(828 posts)
29. Fear you're 110% correct
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:05 PM
Jun 2022

This country is sleepwalking towards fascism.
And by the time they wake up it's going to be too late. We'll be like Russia and Hungry.
Ruled by an autocrat like Trump or DeSantis.

In It to Win It

(8,517 posts)
20. I have little confident that this will be the issue that tip voters to our side
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:02 PM
Jun 2022

I've always been of the opinion that people's base motivation for voting is their own perception of the economy.

If the economy is humming along just fine, and there is a healthy amount of inflation and everything is fine on the financial and economic side, that frees the top spot on the priority on social issues like guns, abortion and whatever else.

gulliver

(13,254 posts)
21. We need to make sure we focus hard on abortion rights and voting rights.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:10 PM
Jun 2022

That's two areas where hundreds of millions of people are being told, "Your freedom is hereby rescinded."

GoCubsGo

(32,169 posts)
27. It's one of multiple things.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:42 PM
Jun 2022

What we're learning from the Jan. 6th hearings will also tip some toward the Dems, as will gun control. Odds are that there will be yet another gun massacre before November. Also, how many Trumpsters are going to stay home, because Dear Leader inadvertently convinced them there's no point in voting because of all the lies he and his toadies have told about our voting system?

I also wonder how much the 2020 census will affect redistricting. It was Trump-corrupted, and likely not accurate. They used the inaccurate numbers for redistricting. It probably won't affect things much, it could swing a district or two one way or the other. How many "red" districts are actually "purple" now?

liberalmediaaddict

(828 posts)
28. Who knows anymore
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:01 PM
Jun 2022

The few people who will actually vote only seem to care about inflation, high gas prices and the border.

Hopefully I'm wrong.
It's really up to the millions of Americans who never vote in the midterms. We know the die hard conservatives will show up as always.

If people angry about these rulings vote this November and realize Democrats are the only party who's going to protect their civil rights this might change things.

Honestly it's hard not to be cynical and nihilistic about America right now.

LeftInTX

(26,337 posts)
30. Probably not
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:06 PM
Jun 2022

Dems also need to be careful in their messaging, it could backfire.

This does not affect the majority of midterm voters. We should not overdo it.

Gun safety is more likely to have an impact..jmo
Active shooters cause freak out.

TheBlackAdder

(28,380 posts)
31. Rutgers-Eagleton Center for American Women & Politics (45% of women voted paternalistic since 1974).
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:15 PM
Jun 2022

.

That is one of the reasons why ERA did not get passed. Phyllis Schlafly rallied them and since the mid-70s 45% of women have consistently voted paternalistic. The do so due to religion, family & community influences. Some do so by undue pressure, but most are ardent supporters of their religion, and many are in fundamental or orthodox religions and embrace that.

This, along with male voting makes it difficult for women's issues to pass. Instead smaller laws are passed to grant one or two subsets of what the ERA would have provided, but just enough to take the heat off of the ERA issue.

Something has to be done to pierce that religious veil.

.

lees1975

(4,073 posts)
36. It will if the party takes advantage of the burst of energy that is going on now.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:33 PM
Jun 2022

Keep it out there in front of everyone. We got 80 million votes in 2020, we should still get mileage out of that if people TURN OUT TO VOTE.

ecstatic

(32,933 posts)
38. If Democrats explain to voters exactly how to remedy this mess,
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:38 PM
Jun 2022

Yes. But the blanket "go vote" advice does not work. This is an emergency and people need specific marching orders--voters need to know exactly who to vote for up and down the ballot so that no race goes unanswered.

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