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The Onion NAILS It. (Original Post) kpete Jun 2022 OP
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Jun 2022 #1
Kicking for visibility SheltieLover Jun 2022 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2022 #3
I thought it was 6-3 bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #4
Nope. Roberts dissented. Sneederbunk Jun 2022 #5
Nope. Roberts concurred in the judgment. He just wouldn't have gone as far as Alito. rsdsharp Jun 2022 #9
6-3 was to uphold the Mississippi law banning abortions IronLionZion Jun 2022 #10
We have become incubators Deuxcents Jun 2022 #6
You and me both. Two granddaughters whose bodies are "property of the state" calimary Jun 2022 #57
Enraged KNR niyad Jun 2022 #7
next thing you know, they will be taking away women's right to vote. demigoddess Jun 2022 #8
Their probably working on that ? cloudboy07 Jun 2022 #14
Well, of course they are. Mr. Evil Jun 2022 #16
Certainly contraceptions. n/t Eyeball_Kid Jun 2022 #25
Well, isn't a pregnant woman entitled to vote twice? FakeNoose Jun 2022 #28
I like the way you think. Register her unborn to vote since her unborn deserves ancianita Jun 2022 #48
Indentured Colbert Jun 2022 #59
A very reasonable fear. They're emboldened. calimary Jun 2022 #29
I think that's right after banning all contraceptives. n/t NH Ethylene Jun 2022 #37
that's one they can't fuck with treestar Jun 2022 #60
The RW court is feeling cocky IronLionZion Jun 2022 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2022 #15
+1 2naSalit Jun 2022 #23
There actually isn't anyone to stop them unless Democrats win a majority in Congress Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #24
Wish I could rec this post 1,000,000 times. calimary Jun 2022 #32
I'm not giving up either, but we need Democratic leaders to help. Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #41
Well, I refuse to let them. calimary Jun 2022 #54
Limits on length of service would require wnylib Jun 2022 #33
I'd like to see a law that requires th Supreme Court to be balanced, NH Ethylene Jun 2022 #39
Pete Buttiegieg had that policy proposal for his presidential campaign IronLionZion Jun 2022 #51
Very interesting proposal of Buttiegieg. Perhaps every presidential election cycle, we should SWBTATTReg Jun 2022 #58
Another most interesting proposal! calimary Jun 2022 #61
Great list I'd add one thing Bettie Jun 2022 #52
God bless The Onion, as always. (nt) Paladin Jun 2022 #12
Really 6-3 yeah Roberts pulled back his vote for show RANDYWILDMAN Jun 2022 #13
Alito is as far right extremist as there can be. Mr. Evil Jun 2022 #20
It's going to get so much more surreal... PeaceWave Jun 2022 #17
What about HIPAA? CaptainTruth Jun 2022 #19
HIPAA itself is threatened by this decision... PeaceWave Jun 2022 #21
NY has passed laws that prevent extradition in cases like that wnylib Jun 2022 #36
Let the "Supreme Court" have it with both barrels Blue Owl Jun 2022 #18
They could probably do this all day. JohnnyRingo Jun 2022 #22
Kick burrowowl Jun 2022 #26
I Faux pas Jun 2022 #27
Actually, this is a path back towards women simply not existing at all... PeaceWave Jun 2022 #30
Yep. Woman As Property. calimary Jun 2022 #34
... Faux pas Jun 2022 #35
Corporations are persons. wnylib Jun 2022 #38
That's exactly what the did MustLoveBeagles Jun 2022 #31
don't leave these out orleans Jun 2022 #40
+1 dalton99a Jun 2022 #47
K&R. William769 Jun 2022 #42
Don't give'em any ideas! peppertree Jun 2022 #43
So if a bounty hunter shows up can we "stand our ground" from the threat? I think yes. n/t Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #44
Bounty hunters? Don't give them any ideas! PeaceWave Jun 2022 #45
I was thinking of TX offering rewards for turning in anyone seeking/aiding an abortion. I think of Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #46
Seriously. ancianita Jun 2022 #49
Madison Cawthorn publicly referred to women as "Earthen vessels, sanctified by Almighty God" keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #50
FUCK HIM johnnyfins Jun 2022 #53
So why not challenge on 13th Amendment grounds? nuxvomica Jun 2022 #55
We are a fascist nation The Jungle 1 Jun 2022 #56

Response to kpete (Original post)

Deuxcents

(16,199 posts)
6. We have become incubators
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 04:35 PM
Jun 2022

Yesterday, I was angry about the gun ruling. Today, I’m furious at this ruling n feel only rage. I am no longer of child bearing age but I have 2 granddaughters that are n the millions of woman who are no longer free to make their choice. I fear there are even more changes coming as this SC n Alito seem to admire the status of 16th century laws concerning women

calimary

(81,238 posts)
57. You and me both. Two granddaughters whose bodies are "property of the state"
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 09:29 AM
Jun 2022

and no longer their own. Little girls now. But they’ll grow up not knowing what their mom and grandma had: the right to have the last word over their own bodies. They live in a red state. Where women are now property.


FakeNoose

(32,638 posts)
28. Well, isn't a pregnant woman entitled to vote twice?
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:55 PM
Jun 2022

I mean, as of today a fetus has more rights than its host incubator, wouldn't you say?

If women can still vote, we should be able to vote once for ourselves and once for our unborn babies.
I say this hypothetically of course - because I'm not pregnant, at the moment.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
48. I like the way you think. Register her unborn to vote since her unborn deserves
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:38 PM
Jun 2022

more representation than she does.

 

Colbert

(46 posts)
59. Indentured
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 03:59 PM
Jun 2022

Since you're indentured to the fetus, you're only entitled to 3/5 of a vote (and it probably falls to the father of the fetus to cast that vote). Pretty sure that's the way it's written up in the Constitution.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
29. A very reasonable fear. They're emboldened.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:57 PM
Jun 2022

And vigorously cheered on by the knuckledragger contingent.

If anybody ever told you your vote doesn’t matter, beware the wishful thinking on their part.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
60. that's one they can't fuck with
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:02 PM
Jun 2022

it's an amendment. They'd have to get an amendment repealed, and we know how tough that is.

IronLionZion

(45,435 posts)
11. The RW court is feeling cocky
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:02 PM
Jun 2022

and could easily push it as far as they can on other issues because who's going to stop them?

Response to IronLionZion (Reply #11)

Lonestarblue

(9,986 posts)
24. There actually isn't anyone to stop them unless Democrats win a majority in Congress
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:33 PM
Jun 2022

AND the Democrats who win are willing to actually do something about the rights and the SC.

If Democrats win his fall, the first step I would like to see in January 2023 is passage of a law protecting reproductive rights for all women in all states—no state laws allowed to make it difficult for women to get an abortion. And while they’re at it, make sure no federal funds can be used to support the Christian right’s crisis pregnancy centers. They are not medical facilities; they should not be allowed to advertise themselves as such.

Next, pass term limits of no more than 15 to 18 years for SC justices, with justices having served that number denied grandfathered status. At 15 years, Thomas, Alito, and Roberts would be gone, though only Thomas at 18. I don’t know whether such a law can be made retroactive. If term limits can’t be made retroactive, then expand the Court by 4.

The third most important act is to grant statehood to PR and DC to give them time to get prepared to hold state elections in 2024. If Republicans thought any territory would favor them, they would do this in a heartbeat.

Next, voting rights. We just need Democrats willing to act so those like Manchin and Sinema can be sidelined along with their obstruction.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
32. Wish I could rec this post 1,000,000 times.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:02 PM
Jun 2022

What a deeply disturbing day.

But when I think on how discouraged I feel, what makes me stop is the realization that it’s exactly how the bad guys want me to feel. Discouraged- so much that I just give up.

Well, I’ve got some news for them: I’M NOT GIVING UP! NO FUCKING WAY!!!!

Lonestarblue

(9,986 posts)
41. I'm not giving up either, but we need Democratic leaders to help.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:43 PM
Jun 2022

Democrats need to go on talk shows and even Fox. Videos need to be created showing the dangers to women’s lives. We need a new head of the DNC, someone who does more than send out routine emails asking for money. We need another dozen Stacy Abrams.

Today’s decision just settled a decision I’ve been mulling, which is leaving Texas. I will stay through this year because I’m determined to vote against every Republican on the ballot this fall. Next year, I will move to a blue state where it will be safer for me to become a “Jane” to give women from red states a place to stay while they have a safe abortion in a sane state.

There will be other things I can do as well. I remember a Ken Burns documentary on the women’s struggle to obtain the vote and how many years and how much effort that consumed lives to achieve that basic right. The Supreme Court is determined to create second-class citizenship for women. We cannot let them.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
54. Well, I refuse to let them.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 11:44 PM
Jun 2022

I'd also suggest finding a grassroots Democratic group, or a more conventional Democratic group, or a local progressive group, or an Indivisible group! SOME sort of activist group, and get involved - even if just a little bit. Shit - you should know about MINE! I still can't believe my good fortune of lucking into this little group of activists and writers and thinkers and strategists. It's mainly women, mainly older - I'd say 50+ in age range, workers, retirees, wives, moms, and grandmas, and they get more done than I could believe even by seeing it.

I don't know how I lucked out! We meet every week. We write "asks" that are sent out every week with background info on the issue, links for reference, and suggested talking points to give a caller ideas for what to say when he or she calls in to his or her Senator, Congressmember, or state/local legislators' offices. We make it as easy as possible, and the phone numbers and links to email addresses are also provided. And OUR material gets shared with Indivisible sister groups in our area! When I've been able to physically go out to events of any sort (VERY limited though, cuz of COVID), and I happen to meet another activist or two, I talk up what we do and inevitable get somebody's contact info, so they, too, can start getting our weekly email.

I was just bragging about it, today. We have not one but TWO writers in the writers group who are environmentalists. They tend to handle any eco-issues because they're our resident "specialists," but remarkably enough, each week, each of 'em winds up writing about a different issue in the greater universe of environmental/ecological concerns. There's never a repeat or duplication. Up here in Oregon, we've got rivers, forests, open areas, mountains and rolling hills, and a multitude of concerns therein, plus "adjacent issues" like overdevelopment, congestion, and fire season. Every week I'm just that much more impressed with what they come up with!

And at a time like this, it's good to have a group with which to commiserate, and brainstorm what can be done about whatever it is, within a cocoon of safety and friendship, and people who give a damn. It's encouraging and sustaining, even in times of bad news. It reminds me that there are things that CAN be done. (Like just having gotten rid of our DINO Congressman Kurt Schrader, who's a bigger friend to Republicans than he ever seemed to be to US DEMS - even when WE'RE the ones who brought him to the dance.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
33. Limits on length of service would require
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:04 PM
Jun 2022

a constitutional amendment. Can't do it by passing a law.

NH Ethylene

(30,811 posts)
39. I'd like to see a law that requires th Supreme Court to be balanced,
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:21 PM
Jun 2022

In that those appointed by each party are present in the same numbers, regardless of who is president when appointment times come up.

IronLionZion

(45,435 posts)
51. Pete Buttiegieg had that policy proposal for his presidential campaign
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 09:51 PM
Jun 2022

15 judges. 5 from each party and those 10 select the remaining 5.

We could propose something similar to that with 9 I suppose.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
58. Very interesting proposal of Buttiegieg. Perhaps every presidential election cycle, we should
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:24 PM
Jun 2022

have (of still 15 judges like you said), every four years, we elect 5 new judges. Thus, initially start w/ 15, then elect 5 replacement judges in the next presidential cycle, etc. If a judge dies during their term, the president gets to select the replacement, and All of the Congress gets to vote on them (not just the Senate, IMHO, the Senate's is getting to be a roadblock and is subject too easily to manipulation by repugs (as we can see)).

Point is that lifetime appointments are dangerous. There are no restraints (as we're seeing now, despite promises made by the candidates prior to being confirmed, as Collins will verify, that they lied to her, that they wouldn't stir up long established law).

When these people are beyond reach, I feel that they abuse power. As this is so clearly showing. Look at the idiot Justice Thomas now demanding that other like laws be repealed. Who in the hell gave him the right to decide what's law and what's not? And these very same people moaned about law being made in the Courts.

He needs to be impeached and removed (along w/ his gutter wife who can't keep her damn mouth shut, in trying to influence law, break the law efforts).

I'm surprised that someone hasn't filed a lawsuit disputing the Supreme Court's ruling, put a stay on it (Roe vs. Wade), perhaps this can't be done but

Bettie

(16,100 posts)
52. Great list I'd add one thing
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 09:53 PM
Jun 2022

Change the "Permanent Apportionment Act" to better reflect the larger US population.

Set a number of people per rep at the size of the smallest state. That is the number of people per congressional district.

It makes sure that there is appropriate representation for everyone, makes it harder to gerrymander, and makes the EC much more reflective of the popular vote.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
13. Really 6-3 yeah Roberts pulled back his vote for show
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:03 PM
Jun 2022

he is trying to make it look closer then it really was


Alito is a legal shitbag and his reasoning is terrible

Mr. Evil

(2,844 posts)
20. Alito is as far right extremist as there can be.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:23 PM
Jun 2022

A monster that sees human beings as animals to be herded. A glorious action inspired by his god.

Just another Party of Death sadist.

PeaceWave

(24 posts)
17. It's going to get so much more surreal...
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:14 PM
Jun 2022

At some point in the near future, what happens when a woman travels from Texas to California to have an abortion and, while she is in California, her Texas neighbors rat her out to Texas authorities? Some zealous DA in Texas will, under the guise of enforcing Texas criminal law, petition California for extradition of the "fugitive." The case will get kicked all the way up to the Supreme Court where Clarence Thomas will invoke the Dred Scott decision to claim that the "fugitive" woman seeking an abortion needs to be returned to Texas for prosecution. Terrifying.

CaptainTruth

(6,589 posts)
19. What about HIPAA?
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:20 PM
Jun 2022

It seems like the medical care provider in CA could invoke HIPAA & refuse to disclose any info about the patient's medical condition or any medical treatment they received.

Not sure it would stop a warrant or court order, but it seems like something attorneys should be looking at.

PeaceWave

(24 posts)
21. HIPAA itself is threatened by this decision...
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:27 PM
Jun 2022

According to this Supreme Court, you now have no implied right to privacy. Get ready for traffic stops that turn into searches of your medical records (which, conveniently, are now all available online).

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
36. NY has passed laws that prevent extradition in cases like that
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:10 PM
Jun 2022

NY law also prevents sharing records with out-of-state abortion prosecutors.

More states need to do this. If

If it goes to the SC, I suspect that governor Hochul and AG Letitia James would refuse to comply with a SC order to extradite a woman or her doctor for prosecution. I think that they would also refuse to release medical records.

PeaceWave

(24 posts)
30. Actually, this is a path back towards women simply not existing at all...
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 05:57 PM
Jun 2022

Coverture was the process whereby females were deemed to have no legal identity. At birth, a female baby was covered by her father's identity, and then, when she married, by her husband's. The husband and wife became one–and that one was the husband. As a symbol of this subsuming of identity, women took the last names of their husbands.

Think of it...We have a Supreme Court that insists that a corporation is a person but is on the path towards saying that a woman is not a person!

calimary

(81,238 posts)
34. Yep. Woman As Property.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:05 PM
Jun 2022

We’re only there to make their dinners, make their beds, and make their babies.

Well, I REFUSE to go along with that!

Faux pas

(14,672 posts)
35. ...
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:08 PM
Jun 2022

Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, you've enlightened me more. Don't get me wrong I do appreciate it. It's bad enough that we live in a time of alternate universes. It's BEYOND that we have to live in ours with THEM.

wnylib

(21,447 posts)
38. Corporations are persons.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:17 PM
Jun 2022

A fetus is a person.

But a woman is not a person.

Guns, corporations, and fetuses have more rights than women.

Sharia law never became the scary reality that the RWers said it would. But Canon law did.

Time to take back the nation from the fascists.

PeaceWave

(24 posts)
45. Bounty hunters? Don't give them any ideas!
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:04 PM
Jun 2022

If these SOBs get their way, there will be a revamped "Cops" show profiling law enforcement arresting pregnant women. Needless to say, the theme song will be "Bad Girls."

Evolve Dammit

(16,725 posts)
46. I was thinking of TX offering rewards for turning in anyone seeking/aiding an abortion. I think of
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:19 PM
Jun 2022

Those who would do that as bounty hunters.

keithbvadu2

(36,793 posts)
50. Madison Cawthorn publicly referred to women as "Earthen vessels, sanctified by Almighty God"
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 09:32 PM
Jun 2022

Madison Cawthorn publicly referred to women as "Earthen vessels, sanctified by Almighty God"


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216110827

nuxvomica

(12,423 posts)
55. So why not challenge on 13th Amendment grounds?
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 06:20 AM
Jun 2022

Maybe no explicit abortion right in the Constitution but if you reframe it as "forced pregnancy" it is certainly involuntary servitude.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
56. We are a fascist nation
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:15 AM
Jun 2022

Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. wiki

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