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Wounded Bear
(58,649 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Response to kpete (Original post)
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bucolic_frolic
(43,153 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,290 posts)rsdsharp
(9,170 posts)IronLionZion
(45,435 posts)Roberts' dissent was for expanding the ruling to include Roe and Casey. So that part of it was 5-4
Deuxcents
(16,199 posts)Yesterday, I was angry about the gun ruling. Today, Im furious at this ruling n feel only rage. I am no longer of child bearing age but I have 2 granddaughters that are n the millions of woman who are no longer free to make their choice. I fear there are even more changes coming as this SC n Alito seem to admire the status of 16th century laws concerning women
calimary
(81,238 posts)and no longer their own. Little girls now. But theyll grow up not knowing what their mom and grandma had: the right to have the last word over their own bodies. They live in a red state. Where women are now property.
niyad
(113,293 posts)demigoddess
(6,640 posts)cloudboy07
(351 posts)Mr. Evil
(2,844 posts)Conformity, compliance, obey.
Now, let us pray (prey?)
Eyeball_Kid
(7,431 posts)FakeNoose
(32,638 posts)I mean, as of today a fetus has more rights than its host incubator, wouldn't you say?
If women can still vote, we should be able to vote once for ourselves and once for our unborn babies.
I say this hypothetically of course - because I'm not pregnant, at the moment.
ancianita
(36,053 posts)more representation than she does.
Colbert
(46 posts)Since you're indentured to the fetus, you're only entitled to 3/5 of a vote (and it probably falls to the father of the fetus to cast that vote). Pretty sure that's the way it's written up in the Constitution.
calimary
(81,238 posts)And vigorously cheered on by the knuckledragger contingent.
If anybody ever told you your vote doesnt matter, beware the wishful thinking on their part.
NH Ethylene
(30,811 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)it's an amendment. They'd have to get an amendment repealed, and we know how tough that is.
IronLionZion
(45,435 posts)and could easily push it as far as they can on other issues because who's going to stop them?
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2naSalit
(86,586 posts)Welcome to DU!
Lonestarblue
(9,986 posts)AND the Democrats who win are willing to actually do something about the rights and the SC.
If Democrats win his fall, the first step I would like to see in January 2023 is passage of a law protecting reproductive rights for all women in all statesno state laws allowed to make it difficult for women to get an abortion. And while theyre at it, make sure no federal funds can be used to support the Christian rights crisis pregnancy centers. They are not medical facilities; they should not be allowed to advertise themselves as such.
Next, pass term limits of no more than 15 to 18 years for SC justices, with justices having served that number denied grandfathered status. At 15 years, Thomas, Alito, and Roberts would be gone, though only Thomas at 18. I dont know whether such a law can be made retroactive. If term limits cant be made retroactive, then expand the Court by 4.
The third most important act is to grant statehood to PR and DC to give them time to get prepared to hold state elections in 2024. If Republicans thought any territory would favor them, they would do this in a heartbeat.
Next, voting rights. We just need Democrats willing to act so those like Manchin and Sinema can be sidelined along with their obstruction.
calimary
(81,238 posts)What a deeply disturbing day.
But when I think on how discouraged I feel, what makes me stop is the realization that its exactly how the bad guys want me to feel. Discouraged- so much that I just give up.
Well, Ive got some news for them: IM NOT GIVING UP! NO FUCKING WAY!!!!
Lonestarblue
(9,986 posts)Democrats need to go on talk shows and even Fox. Videos need to be created showing the dangers to womens lives. We need a new head of the DNC, someone who does more than send out routine emails asking for money. We need another dozen Stacy Abrams.
Todays decision just settled a decision Ive been mulling, which is leaving Texas. I will stay through this year because Im determined to vote against every Republican on the ballot this fall. Next year, I will move to a blue state where it will be safer for me to become a Jane to give women from red states a place to stay while they have a safe abortion in a sane state.
There will be other things I can do as well. I remember a Ken Burns documentary on the womens struggle to obtain the vote and how many years and how much effort that consumed lives to achieve that basic right. The Supreme Court is determined to create second-class citizenship for women. We cannot let them.
calimary
(81,238 posts)I'd also suggest finding a grassroots Democratic group, or a more conventional Democratic group, or a local progressive group, or an Indivisible group! SOME sort of activist group, and get involved - even if just a little bit. Shit - you should know about MINE! I still can't believe my good fortune of lucking into this little group of activists and writers and thinkers and strategists. It's mainly women, mainly older - I'd say 50+ in age range, workers, retirees, wives, moms, and grandmas, and they get more done than I could believe even by seeing it.
I don't know how I lucked out! We meet every week. We write "asks" that are sent out every week with background info on the issue, links for reference, and suggested talking points to give a caller ideas for what to say when he or she calls in to his or her Senator, Congressmember, or state/local legislators' offices. We make it as easy as possible, and the phone numbers and links to email addresses are also provided. And OUR material gets shared with Indivisible sister groups in our area! When I've been able to physically go out to events of any sort (VERY limited though, cuz of COVID), and I happen to meet another activist or two, I talk up what we do and inevitable get somebody's contact info, so they, too, can start getting our weekly email.
I was just bragging about it, today. We have not one but TWO writers in the writers group who are environmentalists. They tend to handle any eco-issues because they're our resident "specialists," but remarkably enough, each week, each of 'em winds up writing about a different issue in the greater universe of environmental/ecological concerns. There's never a repeat or duplication. Up here in Oregon, we've got rivers, forests, open areas, mountains and rolling hills, and a multitude of concerns therein, plus "adjacent issues" like overdevelopment, congestion, and fire season. Every week I'm just that much more impressed with what they come up with!
And at a time like this, it's good to have a group with which to commiserate, and brainstorm what can be done about whatever it is, within a cocoon of safety and friendship, and people who give a damn. It's encouraging and sustaining, even in times of bad news. It reminds me that there are things that CAN be done. (Like just having gotten rid of our DINO Congressman Kurt Schrader, who's a bigger friend to Republicans than he ever seemed to be to US DEMS - even when WE'RE the ones who brought him to the dance.
wnylib
(21,447 posts)a constitutional amendment. Can't do it by passing a law.
NH Ethylene
(30,811 posts)In that those appointed by each party are present in the same numbers, regardless of who is president when appointment times come up.
IronLionZion
(45,435 posts)15 judges. 5 from each party and those 10 select the remaining 5.
We could propose something similar to that with 9 I suppose.
SWBTATTReg
(22,114 posts)have (of still 15 judges like you said), every four years, we elect 5 new judges. Thus, initially start w/ 15, then elect 5 replacement judges in the next presidential cycle, etc. If a judge dies during their term, the president gets to select the replacement, and All of the Congress gets to vote on them (not just the Senate, IMHO, the Senate's is getting to be a roadblock and is subject too easily to manipulation by repugs (as we can see)).
Point is that lifetime appointments are dangerous. There are no restraints (as we're seeing now, despite promises made by the candidates prior to being confirmed, as Collins will verify, that they lied to her, that they wouldn't stir up long established law).
When these people are beyond reach, I feel that they abuse power. As this is so clearly showing. Look at the idiot Justice Thomas now demanding that other like laws be repealed. Who in the hell gave him the right to decide what's law and what's not? And these very same people moaned about law being made in the Courts.
He needs to be impeached and removed (along w/ his gutter wife who can't keep her damn mouth shut, in trying to influence law, break the law efforts).
I'm surprised that someone hasn't filed a lawsuit disputing the Supreme Court's ruling, put a stay on it (Roe vs. Wade), perhaps this can't be done but
calimary
(81,238 posts)Bettie
(16,100 posts)Change the "Permanent Apportionment Act" to better reflect the larger US population.
Set a number of people per rep at the size of the smallest state. That is the number of people per congressional district.
It makes sure that there is appropriate representation for everyone, makes it harder to gerrymander, and makes the EC much more reflective of the popular vote.
Paladin
(28,255 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(2,672 posts)he is trying to make it look closer then it really was
Alito is a legal shitbag and his reasoning is terrible
Mr. Evil
(2,844 posts)A monster that sees human beings as animals to be herded. A glorious action inspired by his god.
Just another Party of Death sadist.
PeaceWave
(24 posts)At some point in the near future, what happens when a woman travels from Texas to California to have an abortion and, while she is in California, her Texas neighbors rat her out to Texas authorities? Some zealous DA in Texas will, under the guise of enforcing Texas criminal law, petition California for extradition of the "fugitive." The case will get kicked all the way up to the Supreme Court where Clarence Thomas will invoke the Dred Scott decision to claim that the "fugitive" woman seeking an abortion needs to be returned to Texas for prosecution. Terrifying.
CaptainTruth
(6,589 posts)It seems like the medical care provider in CA could invoke HIPAA & refuse to disclose any info about the patient's medical condition or any medical treatment they received.
Not sure it would stop a warrant or court order, but it seems like something attorneys should be looking at.
PeaceWave
(24 posts)According to this Supreme Court, you now have no implied right to privacy. Get ready for traffic stops that turn into searches of your medical records (which, conveniently, are now all available online).
wnylib
(21,447 posts)NY law also prevents sharing records with out-of-state abortion prosecutors.
More states need to do this. If
If it goes to the SC, I suspect that governor Hochul and AG Letitia James would refuse to comply with a SC order to extradite a woman or her doctor for prosecution. I think that they would also refuse to release medical records.
Blue Owl
(50,356 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,628 posts)burrowowl
(17,641 posts)told a friend of mine that we are back to being property again.
PeaceWave
(24 posts)Coverture was the process whereby females were deemed to have no legal identity. At birth, a female baby was covered by her father's identity, and then, when she married, by her husband's. The husband and wife became oneand that one was the husband. As a symbol of this subsuming of identity, women took the last names of their husbands.
Think of it...We have a Supreme Court that insists that a corporation is a person but is on the path towards saying that a woman is not a person!
calimary
(81,238 posts)Were only there to make their dinners, make their beds, and make their babies.
Well, I REFUSE to go along with that!
Just when I thought things couldn't get any worse, you've enlightened me more. Don't get me wrong I do appreciate it. It's bad enough that we live in a time of alternate universes. It's BEYOND that we have to live in ours with THEM.
wnylib
(21,447 posts)A fetus is a person.
But a woman is not a person.
Guns, corporations, and fetuses have more rights than women.
Sharia law never became the scary reality that the RWers said it would. But Canon law did.
Time to take back the nation from the fascists.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,599 posts)orleans
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William769
(55,146 posts)peppertree
(21,627 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)PeaceWave
(24 posts)If these SOBs get their way, there will be a revamped "Cops" show profiling law enforcement arresting pregnant women. Needless to say, the theme song will be "Bad Girls."
Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)Those who would do that as bounty hunters.
ancianita
(36,053 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,793 posts)Madison Cawthorn publicly referred to women as "Earthen vessels, sanctified by Almighty God"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216110827
johnnyfins
(819 posts)nuxvomica
(12,423 posts)Maybe no explicit abortion right in the Constitution but if you reframe it as "forced pregnancy" it is certainly involuntary servitude.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. wiki