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Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:16 PM

Poor RBG is spinning in her grave.

Every time this illegitimate SCOTUS comes out with another horrifying ruling I think of RBG, but especially today.

She thought abortion should have been decided on a different case, and based on equal protection, or sex discrimination, not privacy, because she said that basing it on equal protection wouldn't allow it to be overturned. Basing it only on privacy wasn't as strong a foundation. She said that only women become pregnant, so discrimination on that basis is a violation of equality.

She said:

The decision whether or not to bear a child is central to a woman’s life, to her well-being and dignity. It is a decision she must make for herself. When Government controls that decision for her, she is being treated as less than a fully adult human responsible for her own choices.


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Reply Poor RBG is spinning in her grave. (Original post)
Novara Jun 24 OP
dem4decades Jun 24 #1
blueknight73 Jun 24 #2
Demsrule86 Jun 24 #30
Emile Jun 24 #4
David__77 Jun 24 #6
Deuce Jun 24 #7
relayerbob Jun 24 #12
mcar Jun 24 #28
madaboutharry Jun 24 #29
JanMichael Jun 24 #32
PTWB Jun 24 #33
ecstatic Jun 24 #3
COL Mustard Jun 24 #9
FBaggins Jun 24 #34
dem4decades Jun 24 #38
elleng Jun 24 #5
calguy Jun 24 #8
niyad Jun 24 #13
ecstatic Jun 24 #14
RANDYWILDMAN Jun 24 #10
AZSkiffyGeek Jun 24 #11
Skittles Jun 24 #15
AZSkiffyGeek Jun 24 #16
Skittles Jun 24 #22
Just A Box Of Rain Jun 24 #25
AZSkiffyGeek Jun 24 #31
emulatorloo Jun 24 #18
BeyondGeography Jun 24 #20
AZSkiffyGeek Jun 24 #21
BeyondGeography Jun 24 #23
AZSkiffyGeek Jun 24 #24
FBaggins Jun 24 #35
AZSkiffyGeek Jun 24 #36
FBaggins Jun 24 #37
Novara Jun 24 #17
AZSkiffyGeek Jun 24 #19
dixiechiken1 Jun 24 #26
Novara Jun 25 #39
BradAllison Jun 25 #41
ArnoldLayne Jun 24 #27
Novara Jun 25 #40
Polybius Jun 25 #42
Novara Jun 25 #43
dixiechiken1 Jun 25 #44
Novara Jun 25 #46
Polybius Jun 25 #45

Response to Novara (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:17 PM

1. Maybe she should have retired, you think?

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:18 PM

2. Exactly

This could have all been avoided

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Response to blueknight73 (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:51 PM

30. Exactly right...and those Greens, Stein and Sarandan ET AL better STFU...they did this.

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:18 PM

4. +1

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:21 PM

6. Yes.

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:21 PM

7. Yes...

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:25 PM

12. +1

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:32 PM

28. Right, let's blame the woman

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Response to mcar (Reply #28)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:44 PM

29. It's not blaming the woman.

It’s being honest. RBG refused to retire because, and she said this herself, “they won’t get someone like me.”

Ginsburg’s stubbornness is the reason Amy Coney Barrett is on the court.

We need to just admit it.

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Response to mcar (Reply #28)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:55 PM

32. Yep. She should have doused her ego in baby formula and RETIRED.

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Response to mcar (Reply #28)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:55 PM

33. It's not blaming anyone it's simply pointing out what being idealistic cost

 

The Republicans are cut throat when it comes to securing SCOTUS seats. If we don’t practice even a little political pragmatism, we will never get the opportunity to fix this mess.


Political pragmatism is why so many good, strong Democrats were nearly screaming at Breyer to retire when Joe was inaugurated.

What if one of our Democratic senators had died unexpectedly during the last two years and had been replaced by a Republican Governor? Joe would have lost the opportunity to appoint Breyer’s replacement.

Make hay while the sun shines, FFS!

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:18 PM

3. She should have retired during President Obama's presidency

Everything she fought for is lost.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:24 PM

9. I disagree.

It's only lost if you, and other like minded people, don't turn out in November and express your absolute rage and despair in the ballot box. Then the sons-of-bitches win. Never give up.

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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:58 PM

34. Rephrased

It’s only lost if those like-minded people don’t turn out in November 2016.

And they didn’t.

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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:31 PM

38. Okay.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:19 PM

5. She KNEW how it would end.

'She thought abortion should have been decided on a different case, and based on equal protection, or sex discrimination, not privacy, because she said that basing it on equal protection wouldn't allow it to be overturned. Basing it only on privacy wasn't as strong a foundation. '

Thanks for recognizing this.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:23 PM

8. I agree with the other posts- she stayed on too long

God knows I loved that woman, but she damaged everything she stood for by hanging around too long.
Thank God Justice Breyer is stepping down before the situation gets worse.
Now I have to pray for Clarence Thomas to have a massive heart attack.

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Response to calguy (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:26 PM

13. clarence, alito, and F'n TRAITOR**'s unholy trio. They ALL must go.

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Response to calguy (Reply #8)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:27 PM

14. Yep (re: Clarence)

I hate that it's come to this point, but here we are.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:25 PM

10. She also thought the other justices were friends

but I don't know how she could have really thought that, know that no matter how long it took, several of them were trying to make this the cornerstone of their time on the SC.

How Sad is that, Justices on the court living their live to deny other Autonomy of their own health and wellness.


We have weak minded shitbags on the Supreme Court and we need to get rid of them or out country needs to make so much progress they become irrelevant.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:25 PM

11. Lotta people coming out of the woodwork

To shit on her.

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:27 PM

15. no

just pointing out that poor decisions can have very, very bad consequences

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Response to Skittles (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:28 PM

16. Sure

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:34 PM

22. glad you agree

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:37 PM

25. Thank you speaking up.

The last thing I expected to see on this forum was people shitting on the memory of RBG.

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Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #25)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:53 PM

31. Sadly, not surprising

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:30 PM

18. They should be shitting on McConnell and Trump, but apparently that's a bridge too far for some

to blame the people who are actually responsible.

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:31 PM

20. If that's what you call stating the obvious

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:32 PM

21. Keep blaming Dems

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #21)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:34 PM

23. It's a 6-3 Court because we fumbled two seats

Keep giving failure a pass. It’s working so well for us.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:36 PM

24. It's a 6-3 court because a bloc of voters were butthurt

Because the e-mail lady won the nomination.

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #24)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:01 PM

35. Yet that's not blaming Dems

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #35)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:04 PM

36. Where did I say Dems?

Says something that you immediately got defensive though…

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Response to AZSkiffyGeek (Reply #36)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:13 PM

37. People who would have voted for Hillary but didn't show up

Is the normal formulation here.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:28 PM

17. Oh for fuck's sake. This is not RBG's fault.

What? You think McConnell would have allowed Obama to fill her seat?

You think Dem-picked justices would be in the majority TODAY if Obama replaced a left-leaning justice with another left-leaning justice?

You think the other side would have given up because Obama replaced a Dem with another Dem?

Think again.

That is pure fantasy.

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Response to Novara (Reply #17)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:30 PM

19. It's sick

But sadly par for the course.

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Response to Novara (Reply #17)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 06:42 PM

26. EXACTLY. Even if she had retired & been replaced with another like-minded Justice...

It would still be a 5-4 conservative majority court.

If we want to throw someone under the bus, shouldn't it be Anthony Kennedy who retired in 2018 under Trump? IMO, that "retirement" stunk to the high heavens then and it still stinks today.

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Response to dixiechiken1 (Reply #26)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 06:36 AM

39. Absolutely. That was fucked up to hell.

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Response to dixiechiken1 (Reply #26)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:09 AM

41. 100%

But we shouldn't have expected he'd do us any favors.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:28 PM

27. She still should have retired when President Obama was in office

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Reply #27)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 06:42 AM

40. WHAT DIFFERENCE WOULD THAT HAVE MADE?

Obama would have replaced her with another liberal justice. Does anybody think the republicans in the Senate at the time would have confirmed any justice under Obama? Where the hell have you been? Scalia died in February and fucking McConnell wouldn't allow the seat to be filled by Obama because February was "too close to the election," which is something HE MADE UP. Oh but confirming Justice Handmaiden's Tale eight weeks before election day - when people were already voting - was perfectly okay.

You all have selective memories. Y'all don't remember this?

Besides, do the math. We'd still be in the minority and Roe still would be struck down.

Stop remembering a history you'd rather have and start paying attention to facts.

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Response to Novara (Reply #40)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:56 AM

42. Depends when she retired

Mitch didn't become Senate Majority Leader until January 3, 2015.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #42)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:45 AM

43. Please continue to blame RBG for this mess

I can't believe you guys.

DO THE MATH. Even if Obama replaced her, we'd still be in the minority and Roe would still be dead. Let me explain it for the math-challenged: RBG would have been replaced with another liberal justice. We'd still be in the minority due to the stolen seat and Kennedy suddenly deciding to retire during a R administration. Not 6-3, but 5-4. Still a minority.

THiS IS NOT RBG's FAULT.

Shit.

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Response to Novara (Reply #43)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 09:12 AM

44. No shit, right?!?

The woman's dead and people are still blaming her for our lot in life. She had a brilliant legal mind and was a trailblazer for women in this country. She worked to advance the rights of not just women, but all Americans, literally her entire life. She was a hero.

The pro-choice position is that women should have autonomy over their own bodies and their own lives. But the argument here is that she should've retired when we say she should've?!? Please tell me I'm not the only one who sees the irony here. Look, I get that the timing of her death was inconvenient for us. I'm thinking it was for her and her family as well.

There's plenty of blame to go around but this isn't on RBG. Get off her back, FFS.

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Response to dixiechiken1 (Reply #44)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:06 AM

46. Thank you

I mean ... FUCKING THANK YOU.

Sheesh.

RBG was a saint, man. All her life she fought for the rights of others. All her life. She had a brilliant mind up until the end, and we all benefited from her tenure as a SCOTUS justice.

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Response to Novara (Reply #43)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 09:35 AM

45. Oh,I'm not blaming us at all

You just said that Mitch would have blocked her appointment anyway, so I merely corrected you.

I fully agree that RGB should not have ever been pressured to retire. It should be solely her decision.

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