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Kid Berwyn

(14,642 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:36 PM Jun 2022

Is Violence How the Right Brings Change?

“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.” — Mao Zedong

“Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death.” — Adolf Hitler

“(Chicago’s semi-automatic weapons) ban is thus highly suspect because it broadly prohibits common semiautomatic firearms used for lawful purposes. Roughly five million Americans own AR-style semiautomatic rifles. The overwhelming majority of citizens who own and use such rifles do so for lawful purposes, including self-defense and target shooting. Under our precedents, that is all that is needed for citizens to have a right under the Second Amendment to keep such weapons.”

— Clarence Thomas (2015)

Clarence Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/clarence-thomas-guns/553910/

Now please consider who the GZP Supreme Court wants to own and carry machine guns in public:



Joe Biggs, Proud Boy

Photo Source: https://everytownresearch.org/report/more-than-brawlers-the-proud-boys-and-armed-extremism/

So glad we have President Biden in the White House.

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Is Violence How the Right Brings Change? (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 OP
I carry for my own safety vercetti2021 Jun 2022 #1
In Michigan, the Sheriff shot Democracy. Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #7
The GOP is deputizing white males to terrorize the populace into complying with their draconian laws Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #2
Over my dead body vercetti2021 Jun 2022 #3
Good, fight back. I hope Americans all fight back. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #4
Terror Speeds Divide and Conquer Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #9
I have been warning about this for a long time now. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #10
violence is the very basis of their rule DBoon Jun 2022 #5
Absolutely Diabolical Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #11
It seems violence is their ace in the hole. rubbersole Jun 2022 #6
"A strategy of tension." Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #14
"the right" is a cliff now blogslug Jun 2022 #8
A Global Phenomenon Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #16
violence, or the threat thereof, is how any state apparatus maintains control of the population anarch Jun 2022 #12
"We the People" put Life and Liberty in the Constitution Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #17
Money, Media, Messaging, Mendacity, and strategic lobbying... JHB Jun 2022 #13
Their Megaphone Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #18
Violence. Threats of violence. Harassment. IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #15
Why We Don't Know Much About Right-Wing Terrorists Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #19
I recall that story IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #20

vercetti2021

(10,150 posts)
1. I carry for my own safety
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:37 PM
Jun 2022

But if it comes down to it. I'm sure I could get an advantage over a bunch of fat slobby men that can't shoot straight

Kid Berwyn

(14,642 posts)
7. In Michigan, the Sheriff shot Democracy.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 08:07 PM
Jun 2022


Michigan Sheriff Coordinated with Trump Advisers in Attempt to Seize Voting Machines

Emails: Michigan sheriff sought to seize voting machines amid Trump claims

by Jonathan Oosting
Bridge Magazine, July 2, 2021

LANSING — Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf last year tried to enlist fellow “constitutional sheriffs” to seize Dominion voting machines at the heart of an election conspiracy theory promoted by then-President Donald Trump, Bridge Michigan has learned.

A trove of emails obtained by Bridge through the Freedom of Information Act indicate Trump had at least some law enforcement support in his bid to overturn the 2020 election won by Democratic President Joe Biden.

Bridge obtained emails from Leaf that detail his unsuccessful efforts to obtain voting machines and inspect them. The records indicate that Leaf’s attorney provided updates on the effort to Trump allies including attorney Sidney Powell and a contact for former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.

Leaf told Bridge in a brief interview that he worked with other Michigan sheriffs on what he called an “ongoing” matter after the election, but would not divulge specifics.

"It is our job to investigate all acts of voter fraud," said Leaf, a Republican who made national headlines last year for joining armed militia members on stage at a protest against Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s COVID-19 pandemic orders.

Continues…

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/emails-michigan-sheriff-sought-seize-voting-machines-amid-trump-claims

VRWC indeed, but NOT if We the People do something about it, vote Democratic.

Irish_Dem

(45,619 posts)
2. The GOP is deputizing white males to terrorize the populace into complying with their draconian laws
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:41 PM
Jun 2022

We will become a fearful, docile population.

The GOP has hit women hard, half the population is now subjugated by white straight males.
Next comes LGBTQ.

Kid Berwyn

(14,642 posts)
9. Terror Speeds Divide and Conquer
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 09:36 PM
Jun 2022

I’ve gotten old and am getting older faster, so I want to warn the good people:



The Nazification of the Republican Party

By Loretta J. Ross
Counterpunch, Jan. 20, 2021

After World War II, the Nazis who helped Hitler rise to power and murder millions of people, including at least 6 million Jews, were put on trial to send a warning to the world. Not all of them faced a judicial process, but enough were not protected by their high status, official offices, or claims of “innocence” and “patriotism.” Power through violence was the only language they spoke—not justice, not freedom—and they were held accountable. These criminals faced a tribunal at Nürnberg (Nuremberg) so momentous that the disgraced word “Nazi” is forever attached to those who participated in and enabled their horrific crimes.

After the war, Germany banned Nazi flags and neo-Nazis. In fact, the only way that Nazi paraphernalia got into Germany was through smuggling from other countries such as the United States, like from Nazi propagandist Gerhard Lauck in Nebraska, the man called the “Farm Belt Führer” who served four years in a German prison for distributing banned pro-Nazi materials throughout Europe.

I know this because I teach a course on White Supremacy at Smith College that focuses on anti-Semitism, anti-Black racism, and the many intersecting components of white supremacist ideology. After more than 30 years of organizing and teaching about fascism as a Black feminist activist and academic, I know the destructive influence of these noxious ideas, and I teach young people how to interpret and resist them.

Global contempt for the word “Nazi” is a lesson for us today in the United States after the attempted criminal coup at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021. Anyone identified as sympathetic, supportive, or financing these seditious acts that attempted to deny the peaceful transfer of power in our country should be treated with the same public condemnation that the Nazis received after World War II. This includes Nazified people in Congress, in the media, in universities, in regular jobs, and throughout society because fascism is not the fevered dream of one delusional man. Trump is a white supremacist; that he is also a deranged narcissist is really incidental.

Continues...

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/20/the-nazification-of-the-republican-party/



If the hobnailed boot fits, they’re NAZI shits.

Irish_Dem

(45,619 posts)
10. I have been warning about this for a long time now.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 09:38 PM
Jun 2022

And got blasted or ignored.

Now people are finally catching up to reality.

DBoon

(22,284 posts)
5. violence is the very basis of their rule
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:49 PM
Jun 2022

When you want a ruling class to dominate a lower class completely with the possibility of justice, you require violence

Kid Berwyn

(14,642 posts)
11. Absolutely Diabolical
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:27 AM
Jun 2022
The Supreme Court’s Gun Ruling Yesterday Shows It Isn’t Pro-Life

AN INTERVIEW WITH ADAM WINKLER

Jacobin, June 22, 2022

The Supreme Court isn't pro-life — yesterday, it struck down a New York State law limiting who can carry concealed handguns in public, a ruling that could invalidate most gun control laws throughout the country. The court doesn't care about mass death.

Excerpt…

DAVID SIROTA
Can you talk about how gun politics have shifted, and why and how it changed into a partisan issue?

ADAM WINKLER
Well, I think gun politics in America were transformed overnight. And I don’t say that to be hyperbolic.

There was a rising movement for gun owners who wanted to have guns for personal protection in the late 1960s and early 1970s. It was, like our own era, a time of social disruption and the feeling that maybe people were insecure. And there were very high crime rates at the time as well.

The leadership of the NRA [National Rifle Association] at the time was pretty moderate. They were opposed to a lot of gun control laws, but the leadership hatched a plan to move to Colorado Springs to refocus the organization away from political activity and toward recreational sports, hunting, and conservation.

This really angered a group of hardliners in the membership. And at the annual membership meeting in 1977 in Cincinnati, these hardliners staged a coup of the NRA, where they used the rules of order to elect a whole new board of directors.

Literally when the sun rose the next day, the NRA had been transformed. And the new directors were all committed to political advocacy, fighting gun control, and being much more politically assertive. And that group became an active part of the coalition that led to Ronald Reagan being elected president in 1980, and has since become an even stronger part of the Republican conservative coalition.

Continues…

https://jacobin.com/2022/06/gun-control-violence-supreme-court-national-rifle-association-history



American ingenuity, applied to crowd control: “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”

rubbersole

(6,522 posts)
6. It seems violence is their ace in the hole.
Fri Jun 24, 2022, 07:51 PM
Jun 2022

We are going to find out if there is a massive blue wave in November. The wingnuts won't believe it was legit and probably go off the deep end. I'm worried about that for the first time since 1968 (assassinations and street violence).

Kid Berwyn

(14,642 posts)
14. "A strategy of tension."
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:47 AM
Jun 2022
The Strategy of Tension: Understanding State Labeling Processes and Double-Binds

September 2021Critical Criminology 29(3)

DOI:10.1007/s10612-020-09494-5
Authors: Matt Clement at Royal Holloway, University of London
Vincenzo Scalia, University of Florence

Abstract

Criminologists can enhance their theoretical grasp of their subject through an understanding of contemporary political economy because this provides insights into politics, crime and state policy within and across nation-states. Understanding how this plays out is very much part of the “research agenda for global crime” (Hall and Scalia 2019). In this article, we present a comparative study of European statecraft during the Cold War and today, noting the parallels and contrasts in the construction and demonization of the “enemies of the west.” We present detailed analysis of how a “strategy of tension”—by which we mean the use of violent criminal actions by state agents to engender a climate of fear that blames the violence on a dangerous “public enemy”—was enacted by the secret services of the United States and the United Kingdom, in alliance with the Italian government, between 1946 and 1980, alongside some more fragmentary evidence of the way in which contemporary policies are framed around the “War on Terror,” forming the contours of a contemporary “strategy of tension.”

Source w PDF: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340235093_The_Strategy_of_Tension_Understanding_State_Labeling_Processes_and_Double-Binds

The bastards don’t care who gets killed, just as long as they can keep their money and power.

Kid Berwyn

(14,642 posts)
16. A Global Phenomenon
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:22 AM
Jun 2022

Scholars connect the dots…



The Far Right Today

Cas Mudde


The far right is back with a vengeance. After several decades at the political margins, far-right politics has again taken center stage. Three of the world’s largest democracies – Brazil, India, and the United States – now have a radical right leader, while far-right parties continue to increase their profile and support within Europe.

In this timely book, leading global expert on political extremism Cas Mudde provides a concise overview of the fourth wave of postwar far-right politics, exploring its history, ideology, organization, causes, and consequences, as well as the responses available to civil society, party, and state actors to challenge its ideas and influence. What defines this current far-right renaissance, Mudde argues, is its mainstreaming and normalization within the contemporary political landscape. Challenging orthodox thinking on the relationship between conventional and far-right politics, Mudde offers a complex and insightful picture of one of the key political challenges of our time.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Cas Mudde is the Stanley Wade Shelton UGAF Professor of International Affairs at the University of Georgia and Professor II at the Center for Research on Extremism (C-REX) at the University of Oslo.

Source: https://www.wiley.com/en-us/The+Far+Right+Today-p-9781509536856



The facts are there for all to see. The problem is so many today have been raised to think like fascists.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
12. violence, or the threat thereof, is how any state apparatus maintains control of the population
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:29 AM
Jun 2022

But anyway, yes, pretty much.

Kid Berwyn

(14,642 posts)
17. "We the People" put Life and Liberty in the Constitution
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:35 AM
Jun 2022

The first State to explicitly codify the rights of men (today, People) over the powers of the State. The good people at the National Park Service posted a handy reference with links:



What are Civil Rights?

What does the term "civil rights" mean to the American public? As stated in the Declaration of Independence “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” sets the ideal of human rights due to all people. In regards to the rights of people in a society, those rights are defined by the government and conferred upon citizens of a nation or state. For the purposes of these discussions, civil rights are those rights guaranteed to individuals as citizens of a nation, irrespective of gender, race and ethnicity, physical/mental ability, or sexual preference. This roots the examination of civil rights in the process of people exercising those rights within a societal framework and the resistance to those individuals.

Years after the Declaration of Independence, the newly formed United States government ratified the Constitution of 1789, which in addition to codifying the rights of its citizens, formalized the process of disenfranchisement of Native Americans, and further marginalized African-descend people. Congress passed the Naturalization Act of 1790, which stated that to become a citizen, a person must be “a free white person, of good character, living in the United States for 2 years.” Those people born in the U.S. to fathers born in the U.S., or who had been naturalized, were citizens. And while women could be citizens, they were unable to vote in the majority of states and had limited property rights, particularly if married.

Westward expansion introduced new groups to the civil rights discussion. The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848 promised Mexican citizens that suddenly found themselves in the U.S. after the Mexican American War, the rights of U.S. citizens. In short order, their property rights, as well as access to the political process, were legally erased and blunted. Much of the same rationale causing the marginalization of the Mexican-American population was directed toward the Chinese population in the U.S. Once the Chinese population became permanent fixtures in Western mining towns and as labor for the railroads, anti-Chinese agitation led to the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, denying citizenship to a group that helped develop one-third of the nation. The Dred Scott decision in 1857 removed any vestiges of civil rights for African Americans by legally denying any claim of citizenship. All of these actions left free and enslaved African Americans, Chinese Americans, Mexican Americans, and Native Americans effectively disenfranchised in a growing and expanding nation.

The passage of the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments in the second half of the 19th century resolved the issue of citizenship for many groups, granting them the same rights as the rest of society. Native Americans, however, were not given citizenship until 1924. Within a short time, social practices, policies, and laws created barriers to the full realization of their rights as citizens. Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, immigration quotas, and the denial or repeal of citizenship to groups already ensconced in the U.S. undermined the amendments. Groups that gained citizenship found their rights abrogated, denied, or simply ignored. The 19th Amendment in 1920 gave women the right to vote, but did not provide equal rights. For African Americans, Latinos, and Asians, becoming or being born citizens did not ensure full access to these rights. Disenfranchised groups had to fight to regain their civil rights.

The fight of disenfranchised or marginalized groups to regain their civil rights is generally referred to as a “civil rights struggle.” The use of the term is instructive as it indicates that although rights of citizenship, “inalienable rights,” are granted, for many they have to be wrested from society. Over time, the ranks of marginalized citizens in the U.S. has expanded to include Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual people and disabled people. The civil rights struggle takes place within the existing framework of laws, in particular the Bill of Rights, and has gone from being an issue of racial equality to one of equality for all groups.

Source: https://www.nps.gov/subjects/civilrights/civil-rights-overview.htm



NPS stood up to Trump and his treasons — without guns.

Kid Berwyn

(14,642 posts)
18. Their Megaphone
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:49 AM
Jun 2022

The VWRC and its operatives are whistling on a frequency that their dogs hear loud and clear. Thanks to modern communication theory, they no longer need to have a central commander and traditional leadership in the field.

The “Post-Organizational Paradigm” just lets everyone on the team know what’s expected That can mean pulling out an assault rifle and “attacking” a church or school or supermarket or nightclub or…

The leaders, like Pisswig the Demented Moron, don’t care, as long as the violence terrorizes the country and lurches politics rightward.



Navigating a Post-Group World

Guhl and Davey, in a study of Telegram published in early 2020, defined a “post-organisational paradigm” as one wherein an “online connection to extremist culture and ideology could be equally important for inspiring violence as connections to ‘on the ground groups.’” The pair cited a wave of white supremacist terror attacks across the globe in 2018 and 2019 – the latter of which was named “the most lethal year for domestic violent extremism in the United States since the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995,” according to the Department of Homeland Security – as emblematic of this shift.

Davey said in an email that these findings were based on a network analysis of different channels on the platform sharing each other’s content.

“Crucially we found that [Telegram] channels which were associated more broadly with the sharing of extremist memes and general discussion were connected into channels which were focused more explicitly on violent activity, suggesting that users with a general interest in the extreme right wing could easily and quickly find themselves coming into content advocating for extreme violence,” he wrote.

Guhl and Davey’s observations in their report were particular to the broader white power movement. On Telegram, channels associated with white power accelerationism – a strategy popular in parts of the extreme right that contends modern society is irredeemable and offers up apocalyptic race war as a solution – have sought to dissuade their followers against traditional organizing methods.

Continues… Capitol Insurrection Shows How Trends On The Far-Right’s Fringe Have Become Mainstream



Once I thought the Internet would lead to a democratization of discourse. Wow, was I wrong.
 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
15. Violence. Threats of violence. Harassment.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 01:45 AM
Jun 2022

Or to come right out and say it instead of pussy-footing: Domestic terrorism.

They're terrorizing us. They're holding us hostage. And they are going to wind up tearing the country to pieces.

Kid Berwyn

(14,642 posts)
19. Why We Don't Know Much About Right-Wing Terrorists
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:53 AM
Jun 2022
Conservatives Fired The Guy Studying Them in 2009



Why Don’t We Know Much About Right-Wing Terrorists?

Conservatives Fired The Guy Studying Them


JAMESON PARKER
AddictingInfo, JUNE 18, 2015 4:41 PM

After a mass shooting at a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, left nine people dead and a right-wing white supremacist arrested, the country once again faces the uneasy question of just how many so-called “home-grown” terrorists are out there – heavily armed, ideologically driven, and violent.

It’s a good question, but it may be tough to answer because for reasons that are astoundingly dimwitted, the Department of Homeland Security pushed out the guy who was in charge of watching them, and dismantled his team all the way back in 2009.

The beleaguered hero of this story is Daryl Johnson, a top government counterterrorism analyst working at Homeland Security who spent six years with the agency amassing a wealth of data on far-right extremist groups that posed various degrees of threat to citizens in the United States. In 2009, in the months after President Obama assumed office, he watched as these groups veered even further right, and began to fear that America’s first African-American president could be the catalyst of a major uptick in hate crimes and anti-government attacks.

In a landmark report released just months into Obama’s term, and now looks downright clairvoyant, Johnson made the case that radical Islam is only a small piece of the terrorism pie:

“Do not overlook other types of terrorist groups,” the report warned, noting that five purely domestic groups had considered using weapons of mass destruction in that period. Similar warnings have been issued by the two principal non-government groups that track domestic terrorism: the New York-based Anti-Defamation League and the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center.

An annual tally by the latter group of what it calls “Terror From the Right” listed 13 major incidents and arrests last year, nearly double the annual number in previous years; the group also reported the number of hate groups had topped 1,000 in 2010, for the first time in at least two decades.


In response to that report, Johnson was destroyed. It wasn’t his integrity or claims that got him in trouble, his facts were solid. Instead, it was the inconvenient truth that much of the threat comes from right-wing conservatives, and even more awkwardly, radical right-wing conservatives who say and think a lot of the same things mainstream right-wing conservatives say and think.

CONTINUED w/links...

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/18/why-dont-we-know-much-about-right-wing-terrorists-conservatives-fired-the-guy-studying-them/

That was from 2015.

Internet Archive Waybac, if link doesn’t work:

http://web.archive.org/web/20150910045015/http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/18/why-dont-we-know-much-about-right-wing-terrorists-conservatives-fired-the-guy-studying-them/
 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
20. I recall that story
Mon Jun 27, 2022, 06:25 AM
Jun 2022

Daryl Johnson's research and evidence and beliefs were absolutely solid. He wound up being railroaded and fired because people didn't want to hear the truth. And what's frightening is things were nowhere near as ugly in 2009 as they are here in 2022.

Ohhh, if only more people had sat and listened to what Johnson tried to warn us about.

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