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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShouldn't all pro-lifers embrace forcing women to have their rapist's babies?
Some avoid it, or try not to endorse it, but in my opinion their stance is reflected as so...
-They consider the conceived as important enough to ban women from having an abortion.
-They almost always refer to it as an unborn baby, person or human life.
As we know, no US law that I know of can eliminate someone who was conceived in rape once they are out of womb no matter how violent or atrocious the circumstances were.
Why should any pro-lifer proponent have it both ways? Are they what they say they are or not?
Important enough to want a woman to carry it to term, but not important enough let it live if conceived in rape?
What's your opinion? Of course, I think they should fully endorse what they so often claim, and it is an atrocious result.
A pro-lifer shouldn't also be in favor of letting a woman go to another state to "murder" their child. These are the things they say about this issue. I feel like they all need to face it.
Response to RoeVWade (Original post)
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musette_sf
(10,200 posts)and I would never, ever gestate the tainted sperm of a mentally ill, violent sex criminal. It would be irresponsible to perpetuate the gene pool of a mentally ill, violent sex criminal. Its not surprising that not a few of the most evil and vicious Rapists Rights advocates are rape spawn - just as perverted and cruel as their fathers.
Scrivener7
(50,935 posts)I don't understand this post.
They aren't trying to have it both ways. They are proud of their cruelty.
RoeVWade
(200 posts)Quite a few, I believe.
But I believe they have put themselves into the unavoidable position of supporting rapist's babies by making their cases so strong for personhood.
Scrivener7
(50,935 posts)RoeVWade
(200 posts)Anecdotally, I've certainly debated a few people as well elsewhere.
Scrivener7
(50,935 posts)RoeVWade
(200 posts)sent this message to my governor DeSantis
If abortion is killing a human being why arent women who do it charged with murder? If its not murder of a human then why are we interfering with a womans choice to have an abortion?
In Florida, first-degree murder is a capital felony, punishable by either life in prison with no possibility of parole or the death penalty.
His position of only wanting to charge providers shows he thinks he can escape the difficult position he would normally endorse if asked about being tough on murderers in penalties.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,315 posts)Abolish Human Abortion, Operation Save America, Progressive Anti-Abortion Uprising...they're all for making all abortion illegal and criminalizing both people who access and people who provide abortion care.
RoeVWade
(200 posts)at the people who actually might change their mind not those who won't. While I don't disagree there's value in plenty of things, the idea makes little sense in almost everything else. You can't claim someone who stole 10 dollars of your savings, stole the potential value of 40 years of investment. Nor can you claim someone crushing an acorn in your yard owes you the future product of massive oak tree. The woman's free choices are superior, particularly to life not even developed enough live even as a newborn yet.
And for that matter one newborn life is superior to the needs of fertilized ovum. Which is why the scenario of the burning fertility clinic usually has the choice of rescuing the newborns first before a vat for frozen embryo if there may not be time to rescue both.
oops bad edit
RoeVWade
(200 posts)then the person or person's who force her to do it against her will should be charged with SLAVERY. (or enslavemnet)
Sounds fair to me.