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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust a rumor I heard on the news; Some Republicans want to classify abortion in this way.
A mental illness. If a women has an abortion they don't want to send her to prison, they want to send her to a mental institution for treatment. I don't know if this is true, but it sounds like something the Republicans would do.
Irish_Dem
(46,572 posts)To brainwash women into the "correct" way of thinking.
Liberal In Texas
(13,533 posts)These people are fascists.
Irish_Dem
(46,572 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Lovie777
(12,218 posts)mental health insurance which facilities will try to brain wash.
scarletlib
(3,410 posts)Posted last week or so by Heather Parton on her website. Her website is Hullabaloo.
PortTack
(32,715 posts)2naSalit
(86,335 posts)they just want to have it be that way again.
PortTack
(32,715 posts)Others or themselves. If they change the law it would have to include men.
2naSalit
(86,335 posts)The local courts are fair.
In the northeastern states, it's common practice for men to have a woman committed on his word alone. It may have change in recent years but it was a common thing when I lived there.
My brother tried to do it to both of his mates, he's an abusive asshole, and was partially successful with both. It was in an attempt to harm them to the utmost by getting their kids taken away from them, that was his goal. It was what my father did to all his wives and girlfriends, one of my sisters had to fight off such claims from her ex, one of my nieces is also facing such issues with an abusive ex who has, to date, managed to take her child away from her. He's done it to two other wives.
And I have seen it done to many women not in my family, it's not just us. It was all too simple for those men to claim the woman was not in her right mind and a danger to the kids so they took them away and subjected the mother to psychiatric evaluation which will then be used in court to remove the kids from her custody.
It's a tool that abusive asshole use to further terrorize their victims.
Deminpenn
(15,265 posts)nt
Cosmocat
(14,559 posts)They are going to run this country into the ground in a stunningly short period of time ...
LakeVermilion
(1,037 posts)Why shouldn't the "couple" be burdened with incarceration?
Emile
(22,506 posts)sop
(10,106 posts)"The...goal of the eugenics movement was to 'breed out' undesirable traits in order to create a society with a 'superior' genetic makeup, which essentially meant reducing the population of the non-white and the mentally ill...most states had federally funded eugenics boards, and state-ordered sterilization was a common occurrence. Sterilization was seen as one of the most effective ways to stem the growth of an 'undesirable' population, since ending a womans reproductive capabilities meant that she would no longer be able to contribute to the population."
"The SC case Buck v. Bell (1927) decided that a Virginia law authorizing the mandatory sterilization of inmates in mental institutions was constitutional...The Supreme Court found that the Virginia law was valuable and did not violate the Constitution, and would prevent the United States from 'being swamped with incompetence'
The Court has never explicitly overturned Buck v. Bell."
"Californias 'Asexualization Acts' in the 1910s and 1920s led to the sterilization of 20,000 disproportionately Black and Mexican people who were deemed to be mentally ill. Hitler and the Nazis were reportedly inspired by Californias laws when formulating their own genocidal eugenics policies in the 1930s...Hitler wrote, 'There is today one state in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception [of citizenship] are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States.'"
"Throughout the 20th century, nearly 70,0000 people (overwhelmingly working-class women of color) were sterilized in over 30 states. Black women, Latina women, and Native American women were specifically targeted. From the 1930s to the 1970s, nearly one-third of the women in Puerto Rico, a U.S. territory, were coerced into sterilization when government officials claimed that Puerto Ricos economy would benefit from a reduced population. Sterilization was so common that it became known as 'La Operación (The Operation)' among Puerto Ricans."
"Black women were also disproportionately and forcibly sterilized and subjected to reproductive abuse. In North Carolina in the 1960s, Black women made up 65 percent of all sterilizations of women, although they were only 25 percent of the population. One Black woman who was subjected to a forced hysterectomy during this time was Fannie Lou Hamer, a renowned civil rights activist. Hamer described how nonconsensual sterilizations of working-class Black women in the South were so common that they were colloquially known as a 'Mississippi appendectomy'."
"Additionally, many Native American women were sterilized against their will. According to a report by historian Jane Lawrence, the Indian Health Service was accused of sterilizing nearly 25% of Indigenous women during the 1960s and 1970s. In 1973, the year that Roe v. Wade was decided by the Supreme Court, supposedly ensuring reproductive rights for all American women, the reproductive rights of thousands of Indigenous women were entirely ignored as they were forcibly sterilized."
"Forced sterilization, especially in exchange for a sentence reduction, occurs often in the criminal legal system today. Government-sanctioned efforts to prevent incarcerated people from reproducing were widespread in the 20th century, and still continue today. In 2017, a judge in Tennessee offered to reduce the jail sentences of convicted people who appeared before him in court if they 'volunteered' to undergo sterilization. In 2009, a 21-year-old woman in West Virginia convicted of marijuana possession underwent sterilization as part of her probation. In 2018, an Oklahoma woman convicted of cashing a counterfeit check received a reduced sentence after undergoing sterilization at the suggestion of the judge.
"According to a report by the Center for Investigative Reporting, almost 150 women considered likely to return to prison were sterilized in California prisons between 2004 and 2003. Although they had to sign 'consent' forms, the procedure, when posed as an incentive for a reduced sentence, generates an ongoing debate about whether or not consent actually exists in these situations."
"Forced sterilizations in the United States are unfortunately nothing new and nothing of the past, either. Yet, judging from the reactions to the recent allegations of involuntary hysterectomies performed at ICE detention facilities, many people are under the impression that these are unprecedented atrocities that are unique to the Trump administration. Of course, it is not any individuals personal fault for being unaware of the United States history with eugenics and forced sterilization; rather, it is a reflection of our education system and the history we prioritize."
https://bpr.berkeley.edu/2020/11/04/americas-forgotten-history-of-forced-sterilization/
mopinko
(70,023 posts)make sure those white babies get to the market?
i wonder if they'll have laundries like ireland back in the day. or maybe farms.
2naSalit
(86,335 posts)mopinko
(70,023 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)samnsara
(17,606 posts)snowybirdie
(5,219 posts)mental institutions. Not going to happen. Besides them manly folks need someone at home to clean and cook when the ladies return from their day jobs.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)even in horrible facilities (and they would be), over half the population is female and still has the vote. And most of the rest have loved ones of childbearing age.
I can only wish just one state quickly began involuntary commitment to mental institutions for abortion. Sadly, it won't be that quick and easy.
But the midterms are coming up fast, another opportunity to continue the Democratic Party's reverse of the national downward plunge that started in 2016.
viva la
(3,273 posts)dameatball
(7,395 posts)themselves or others. I can see where they might try to make the argument that a fetus is a person, so therefore....etc. Not that much of a stretch to believe they will try it. Seems unlikely, but so did other things we have seen in the past few years.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)Probably a Religious component. I can just see it.