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Woodswalker

(549 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:33 AM Jun 2022

Blue States say no extradition

of women who came to their state to seek safe abortion, here here!. But Red states want to arrest and prosecute them when returning to their home state. I can't believe this is even real! Sounds like something from a bad movie. Somebody wake me up!

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bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
2. Remember
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:39 AM
Jun 2022

McConnell said they would ban abortion nationwide, they would do that too. Vote them out in November, give any small donation to help abortion agencies now.

Lovie777

(12,232 posts)
3. Republican and Independent women want choice . .. .
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:50 AM
Jun 2022

as well. I read that Hawley said that many will leave the red states allowing republicans to secure total dominance in those states as well as the electoral college states. I guess he is confident that women are the weaker sex. Over all, they don't know women very well, except for their inner circle.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
6. They actually believe...
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:09 AM
Jun 2022

That we are not capable of engaging in heady things like politics and leadership.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
5. It's all posturing at this point
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:58 AM
Jun 2022

The majority in red states are barely smart enough to remember to breathe every 2-3 seconds. Their management of these extreme laws is going to be a cluster fuck, just like the rest of their states. Bubba talks a great game but he's too much of a gluton to actually do more than feed his own face (see line his own pockets).

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
8. Not at all...their real impact will be to cut off legal access
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:17 AM
Jun 2022

It'll be devastating.

My point is that they don't manage their states very well. And their real interest seems to be with what they can make money at.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. the law that right wingers never think things through to their next conclusion
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:37 PM
Jun 2022

is sure to come into operation.

First, they insisted it is a state matter, and so the Supreme Court agreed with them. Now they want interstate involvement.

Second, they cannot suspend the First Amendment. Soon there will be a huge charity to help with travel expenses for women in red states. They can't prohibit the spread of information on that.

Third, they may get pushback within their own state from their own state's voters once the reality sets in and people realize they want the right to choose back. They can't do anything to stop lobbying of state legislatures or candidates campaigning for state seats on pro-choice grounds.

Model35mech

(1,530 posts)
9. I think that would be a constitutional problem under the Commerce Clause
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:34 AM
Jun 2022

Facilitating and regulating interstate commerce is a fundamental raison d'tre for the federal government.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
15. That's why their next goal is a federal ban.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 05:03 PM
Jun 2022

And that will happen if they take control of the WH and Congress.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
10. Most women who travel to other states for abortions
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:36 AM
Jun 2022

will return to their home state afterwards, so no extradition will be needed. Their privacy will be violated in those red states, but privacy appears not to be of interest to the SCOTUS.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
11. Lawyers please comment, but I think this is a non-issue
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:45 AM
Jun 2022

Red states can't prosecute you for something you do in a Blue state and vice versa. Here's something from the web.

"The Sixth Amendment mandates that criminal trials be conducted 'by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed.'"

https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/14383/can-i-be-tried-for-something-thats-a-crime-in-another-state

Note, the article does say civil lawsuits are different, so someone in Texas can sue a Texan for something done in, say California. But there's no "extradition" concern.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
13. I don't think they can
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:33 PM
Jun 2022

One who commits a murder in Pennsylvania is tried in Pennsylvania. New York can't prosecute that murder.

They wanted it to be a state matter. So it's a state matter. Now they are already trying to have it both ways.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
16. It's a non-issue
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 05:11 PM
Jun 2022

Texas can no more prosecute a woman for an abortion that took place in California than California can prosecute someone who possessed a machine gun while in Texas.

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