Prediction: Obergefell falls in 2024. The case will come from Texas

[Arazi]

If you’re in a same sex marriage it’s time to recognize they’re going to take your rights away

[Autumn]

1. Yep.

[paleotn]

2. The vile pile of excrement, Clarence Thomas already said so....

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/thomas-wants-supreme-court-overturn-landmark-rulings-legalized-contrac-rcna35228

[emulatorloo]

3. They'll reinstate 'Sodomy' laws too. They'll stop at nothing to make being gay illegal

and to persecute straight couples who do anything in bed other than sex that leads to pregnancy.

[kimbutgar]

4. Lindsey Graham needs to start getting nervous then

[misanthrope]

29. It doesn't matter for guys like him

He's in a protected class.

[PTWB]

5. I don't think so.

This war on women has been raging for decades. The court doesn’t have the same level of pressure from their base to reverse Obergefell. These right wing extremist justices were hand picked to have the best chance of reversing Roe. I think of them, maybe 3 would reverse Obergefell (Alito, Gorsuch, Thomas).

[Ocelot II]

7. I think the base is ramping up pressure; we can see this from

the "don't say gay" laws, bathroom laws, and the trans panic that's been appearing all over. With abortion gone as a useful wedge issue for the right wing they'll have to find someone else to hate on, and LGBT people seem to be in the crosshairs now.

[PTWB]

18. They'll still use abortion as a wedge issue.

They’ll just change the marketing a little and use fear based propaganda to keep their voters in line.


Republican propaganda will morph from “vote for us and we will end Roe v Wade” into “vote for us so Democrats can’t bring Roe back” and far more nefarious distortions of reality, painting Democrats as “baby killers” who will unleash abortion on the country again at the earliest opportunity.

Abortion rights will continue to be a major Republican propaganda tool.

[Mister Ed]

12. For decades, Roe was their carrot-on-a-stick that kept their base tirelessly trotting.

Now that they've finally had to give the donkey its carrot, they need a new one quick. Obergefell is the next carrot.

[Arazi]

13. You're being naive about the players behind this

This is a long game to wipe away social equality through the performance of morality in order to capture political, social and economic power for white protestants, and like minded conservative catholics.

They’ve gone large with Roe. They’re definitely not stopping now.

We’re in a civil rights war and we can’t afford to be sanguine.

[Ocelot II]

6. TX or another retrograde state will enact a statute outlawing same sex marriage

in direct defiance of Obergefell to make sure the issue goes back to the Supine Court. And despite what Alito wrote in Dobbs, his analysis of and dislike for substantive due process puts LGTB rights on the same block as abortion. There's not a lot of daylight between the two.

So, if such a state statute is enacted, those affected have to chose between not challenging it to keep it out of the grubby hands of the court, meaning they're stuck with the results unless they leave the state, or challenging it and risking the same disaster as Dobbs.

We can only hope the process takes long enough to outlive Alito and Thomas.

[NullTuples]

8. You can bet Judge Reed O'Connor's signature will be on that case when it happens.

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[Buckeyeblue]

9. The question is what happens to those who are married?

Because overturning Obergefell would mean that the defense of marriage act would be law again. It would also trigger state level laws that ban marriage equity.

There is the whole marriage tax aspect of Obergefell that might make it different. And wasn't that one aspect of Kennedy's opinion?

It's interesting how Kennedy left the court knowing his replacement would likely undo his legacy (Casey & Obergefell). But Kennedy was also part of the gang of 5 that installed W into the presidency.

[Maraya1969]

10. Since when it is a governmental right to deny me basic rights like privacy?

"I join the opinion of the Court because it correctly holds that there is no constitutional right to abortion."

clarence jackass thomas


Since when is it a governmental right to deny anyone these things? It shouldn't even be something the government has any say in. That is what fascist states do.

[NullTuples]

24. Perhaps in the conservative justices' mindset, you never had it so they aren't taking anything away.

But I doubt it. They seem to enjoy what they're doing and don't seem too constrained by needing to be consistent.

[Demovictory9]

11. Lots of comments wishing same sex marriage falls next following youtube

Segment about this. Person after person saying they want it to fall 😔

[treestar]

14. different issue

based on the fundamental right to marriage.

Roe always did have some problems with how it was written. A long term goal would be to challenge a red state's law to get a better written pro-choice decision - that will take a while as it needs a better court.

[we can do it]

15. They cannot dissolve a marriage.

[Arazi]

17. This isn't about the past it's about what's coming ahead

[we can do it]

20. You literally said If you're in a same sex marriage it's time to recognize they're going to take...

take your rights away.

[Arazi]

22. So I did. I meant partnerships. Thank you for spotting that

[we can do it]

25. 😎

[NullTuples]

26. But can they allow some states to not recognize said marriage?

Marriage is not a federal function, it's a state one. And it seems this Court wants to splinter America as much as possible.

[JanMichael]

27. I hate to say this but wanna bet?

I wouldn't put anything past these neanderthals. No offense to neanderthals but cretins seemed insufficient.

[Midnight Writer]

16. Thomas laid out the agenda in his written concurrence.

His concurrence is now part of an official Supreme Court decision that other courts will look to for guidance.

They will strike quickly, destroying rights and precedents while they can.

Public education and regulatory government agencies are also on the legal chopping block.

[Arazi]

19. I almost said regulatory agencies because that is squarely in the crosshairs to

They’ll go after an agency that’s easy to pick off like the Bureau of Land Management or Indian Affairs which will allow them to eradicate the ones the elites really want gone like the SEC

[Midnight Writer]

23. WV vs EPA is on the docket now. Decision should come down soon.

Conservative argument is that regulatory agencies have no legal authority to issue regulations or make rulings because it violates Due Process.

[Arazi]

28. Abbott wants to resurrect Plyler. Free education for all children is going to end

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2022/05/04/gov-greg-abbott-supreme-court-case-requiring-education-undocumented-children/9652463002/

“…times are different” means the new SCOTUS

Gov. Greg Abbott wants Texas to challenge a 1982 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that requires states to offer free public education to all children, including those lacking legal immigration status.

That ruling, known as Plyler v. Doe, struck down a Texas law that had denied state funding to educate children who had not been "legally admitted" to the United States.

It's time, Abbott told a conservative radio host Wednesday, for Texas to try once again to limit the state's responsibility to educate noncitizens.

"I think we will resurrect that case and challenge this issue again, because the expenses are extraordinary and the times are different than when Plyler versus Doe was issued many decades ago," Abbott told host Joe Pagliarulo.

[roamer65]

21. I would concur.

Isn’t anything that I’m not already used to over the past 50 plus years of my life.

LGBTQ discrimination.