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MissMillie

(38,553 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 06:57 PM Jun 2022

Cornyn says "Now do Plessy vs Ferguson/Brown vs Board of Education"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/texas-senator-john-cornyn-says-now-do-plessy-vs-ferguson-brown-vs-board-of-education/ar-AAYRRA0?ocid=U483DHP&li=BBnb7Kz


Obama, making his statement on Twitter on Friday morning shortly after the ruling was handed down, said "Today, the Supreme Court not only reversed nearly 50 years of precedent, it relegated the most intensely personal decision someone can make to the whims of politicians and ideologues—attacking the essential freedoms of millions of Americans."

The following morning, Cornyn shared that statement from Obama to his own Twitter account adding "Now do Plessy vs Ferguson/Brown vs Board of Education."



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Yeah, I know. I needn't say a thing. It speaks for itself.
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Cornyn says "Now do Plessy vs Ferguson/Brown vs Board of Education" (Original Post) MissMillie Jun 2022 OP
Hey, while we're at it, let's reinstate Dred Scott! Ocelot II Jun 2022 #1
Not Quite Yet nt SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #6
Not defending Cornyn, but... PTWB Jun 2022 #2
The real distinction is... Effete Snob Jun 2022 #3
Cornyn is not running for re-election and it's obviously time... brush Jun 2022 #5
I think what Cornyn was trying to argue was that if it was ok Ocelot II Jun 2022 #7
Gotta show those Magats who booed him that he really IS one of them! 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2022 #4
He took some shit for that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 #8
Do Loving Easterncedar Jun 2022 #9
Rec'd for exposing this cretin only. Boomerproud Jun 2022 #10
Challenge accepted, Senator gratuitous Jun 2022 #11
So the Christian right's end game is to take us back to the stone ages. Great. Initech Jun 2022 #12
 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
2. Not defending Cornyn, but...
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:06 PM
Jun 2022

It seems clear he’s referencing how Brown overturned Plessy, and trying to make a point that there is historical present for long standing bad decisions being overturned by good ones.

I don’t agree with his point because I think Roe was a good decision and that Dobbs is a bad decision, but he (obviously) isn’t saying we should go back to segregation.

Cornyn may even wish we would go back to segregation. But that isn’t what he’s saying with this tweet.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
3. The real distinction is...
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:12 PM
Jun 2022

Overturning Plessy expanded liberty. Overturning Roe narrows liberty.

Ordinarily, precedent is overturned in the direction of expanding and extending rights and liberty, not narrowing it.

brush

(53,767 posts)
5. Cornyn is not running for re-election and it's obviously time...
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:18 PM
Jun 2022

after tweeting something so inappropriate at our only ex-Black president that's so easily interpreted, or misinterpreted, as pure racism.

Who is sure what he meant?

Hope he doesn't let the door hit him in his dense behind as he leaves.

Ocelot II

(115,679 posts)
7. I think what Cornyn was trying to argue was that if it was ok
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:36 PM
Jun 2022

to to overturn Plessy many years later in Brown, then why are people complaining about overturning Roe in Dobbs? But because Cornyn is a moron, he seems not to understand, first, that the Supreme Court overturns prior decisions only if there is a very good reason to do so, usually because there has been a significant change in circumstances or national will - clearly the situation in Brown, but not in Dobbs. Nothing has changed since Roe was decided that would indicate any need to overturn it; the opposite is true: for 50 years women have relied on the availability of abortions if necessary, which has markedly improved their economic and social circumstances. Second, Brown negated the pernicious separate-but-equal doctrine established by Plessy, and bolstered the right of Black children to receive an equal education in integrated schools. Dobbs did the opposite: it actually eliminated a Constitutional right - something that has never happened before.

But, as previously mentioned, Cornyn is a moron. The fact that he actually has a law degree and should have understood the yawning abyss between the two examples suggests that he slept through con law and hired someone to take the bar exam for him.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Challenge accepted, Senator
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 09:35 PM
Jun 2022

Plessy set up the "separate but equal" regime that failed miserably for decades, giving the force of law for Black people to be separated from the rights and privileges of society. Their "equal" public institutions and place in society was underfunded, overworked, unvalued, underpaid, and when Black people did manage to scrape together some generational wealth, it was forcibly taken from them. Cf. the Tulsa race massacre and Bruce's Beach in Manhattan Beach, California.

The situation remained intolerable for nearly 60 years before a clear majority of the United States finally shook itself free from the racism that dominated its national history and moved to change society to a fairer arc.

Roe, on the other hand, recognized a person's right to bodily autonomy and gave women control over their own lives in a way they had never had before. It was reversed by a minority that lied, cheated and stole its way into power against the clear will of the people of the country. It was reversed by a minority operating as a medical authority when it had no medical expertise to decide that it knew better than any woman, every woman about her own health care.

If you can't see the difference, Senator, you're every bit the stone-brained idiot I've taken you for all these years.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
12. So the Christian right's end game is to take us back to the stone ages. Great.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 09:40 PM
Jun 2022

Fuck these fucking assholes!

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