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SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
1. And Biden still resists expansion of the Court, if anything, to more fully represent ALL Americans.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 09:40 PM
Jun 2022

I know that he doesn't want to stir the pot up, until after the 2022 elections but there comes a time when time does not wait, that far more important issues are being decided w/o the full agreement of the American people now.

JohnSJ

(92,118 posts)
5. The issue is winning both Houses in large numbers in Congress in the midterms. Then we will have
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 09:59 PM
Jun 2022

options. From codifying Roe, impeaching SC justices from lying under oath, to expanding the SC. Until that happens, it is a moot point

If we win enough seats in the House and Senate, Biden can be persuaded to change his position on expanding the court

If we win both houses in the midterms, President Biden will sign a bill codifying Roe

oioioi

(1,127 posts)
2. Full text...
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 09:46 PM
Jun 2022

- 1 justice’s family (Thomas) was paid by right wing groups for years and he never disclosed it, violating Federal law

- Same justice’s spouse participated in 1/6 and he used his SCOTUS seat to vote to keep potential info related to his wife from investigators in Congress…

- 2 justices stand very credibly accused of sexual assault

And that’s the tip of the iceberg.

Election or not, the Supreme Court has a legitimacy crisis and the public reaffirms it: 75% of the US public reports lacking confidence in SCOTUS, & those numbers were *pre-Roe ruling*

In a legitimacy crisis, the solution Biden + Dem leaders must offer can’t just be one of voting, but of statute & authority.

Compared to Exec + Leg branch, checks on Court overreach and misconduct are little to none. Leaders must share their plans for Roe AND a rogue court

Past Presidents, from Lincoln to FDR, understood the dangerous stakes of allowing an unchecked Court overreach its authority and threaten our democracy.

Lincoln ignored the court to issue the emancipation proclamation.

FDR, in the plunges of the Great Depression, also sought to confront the Court’s structure (and core gerontocracy problem of lifetime appointments) via public appeal. While he did not succeed, that check came from the ppl & Congress, NOT scotus.

The ruling is Roe, but the crisis is democracy. Leaders must share specific plans for both

The President & Dem leaders can no longer get away with familiar tactics of “committees” and “studies” to avoid tackling our crises head-on anymore:

- Restrain judicial review
- Open clinics on federal lands
- Court expansion
- Expand Fed access/awareness of pill abortions
- etc

For the moments when we DO insist on elections, we must be PRECISE with what we need and we will do with that power:

How many seats does the party need to Codify Roe?

Dems must SAY THAT. Not just “go vote” or “give us $6 to win.” That is demoralizing, losing, unfocused nonsense

Dem leaders must tell voters the plan:

What’s the *actual* need? Which specific seats are we focused on? WHAT votes do we need & WHERE (what states + races?)

And, what’s the return? What is Biden/Congress ACTUALLY willing+able to do at 52/60 seats?

Be honest. Details motivate

So let’s wake up everybody! What’s good Democrats! If you don’t like what I’ve laid out here, then please present YOUR plan instead of little “why we can’t” lists!!

Let’s cut the handwringing and get moving! Chop chop! No more showtunes till November unless it’s for GOTV!!

JohnSJ

(92,118 posts)
3. 2016 was the time to do so about this, and enough people in those critical swing states didn't think
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 09:52 PM
Jun 2022

the SC was an important enough issue to vote for Hillary in those critical swing states in the general election in 2016.

We are paying the price for that foolishness now

The only option we have to undo this damage is to come out in huge numbers in 2016 so we have a substantial majority

Unless that happens, realistically there is no way forward on this

W_HAMILTON

(7,859 posts)
6. I honestly wish she would give it a break already.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:32 PM
Jun 2022

Elections are the ONLY THING that will fix this -- period.

Elections are what got us into the mess -- including a lot of the crowd AOC pals around with, you know, the Nina Turners of the world that shit on good Democratic candidates and shit on the one Democrat that could have prevented this in 2016 -- and elections are the only thing that will get us out of this.

Republicans have no shame and will not resign a lifetime Supreme Court seat over whatever investigations AOC wants.

Diminishing the supreme importance of voting is large reason why we are in this situation to begin with -- STOP FUCKING DOING IT!

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