Republicans don't really believe that abortion laws belong to the states.

[madaboutharry]

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Exactly. They are full of shit.

[mucifer]

1. Lots of them truly believe it's murder. They want it outlawed globally

[ancianita]

11. A Big AMEN to ALL that.

[Magoo48]

20. If visions of handmaids and Gilead can cast an entire nation into turmoil, something is wrong.

[Walleye]

2. Yes, sending it back to the states is a fucking lie.I don't care how strongly held their beliefs are

[NanceGreggs]

5. "Send it back to the states"

I'd swear I heard that same phrase recently ...

[2naSalit]

10. +1

I was often shouted down when trying to make this argument in grad school.

[ancianita]

15. It's the phrase used in ROE that SCOTUS uses to leave abortion decisions literally up to states.

Roe emphasized a "legitimate state interest" in limiting abortions for the benefit of the health of the mother and "protecting the potentiality of human life." So that's why today's SCOTUS sent abortion decisions back to the states.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216849946

[no_hypocrisy]

3. Watch for Alito to contradict himself next June when he declares that abortion has nothing

to do with states' rights. He'll outright declare the Constitution does not permit the murder of unborn children.

[Claustrum]

4. +1

[Shrek]

6. He was pretty careful not to mention the states

Held: The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives.

"Elected representatives" could just as easily refer to Congress.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf

[In It to Win It]

25. Yes, they never actually mention that the issue belongs solely to the states

from what I gather.

They stick carefully to the language:

Our decision returns the issue of abortion to those legislative bodies, and it allows women on both sides of the abortion issue to seek to affect the legislative process by influencing public opinion, lobbying legislators, voting, and running for office.

The only reason they mention the state’s interest is because the state petitioned the court, and the matter before the court is the state’s public interest. The court doesn’t assess interest of Congress or the federal government because the federal government is not arguing before the court, the state is.

[thesquanderer]

9. "The right" is not a monolith, any more than "the left" is.

There are some on the right who think Roe invented a right not explicitly in the Constitution. There are some on the right who believe abortion is wrong, period. An individual on the right can hold both of those beliefs, or just the first, or neither of them. They do not need to "get this straight." We on the left hold multiple views as well. A not insignificant portion of those on the right DO believe in legal abortion, even at the federal level, and I certainly wouldn't criticize them for that.

That said, there is certainly a contingent on the right who do see ending Roe (which has the immediate consequence of leaving it to the states) as only a first step toward achieving the goal of outlawing it. And it makes sense that those who want it outlawed would also cheer the end of Roe, even though all ending Roe does is leave it to the states. Ending Roe doesn't end abortion rights, but it would be impossible to end abortion rights without first ending Roe.

[paleotn]

14. Of course not. No more than they believe gun legislation belongs to the states.

[Mr. Steve]

16. North American Taliban

they believe in whatever provides them power over others and will use any phrase to convince the rest of us to release our personal power to them.

[Novara]

17. This is designed to be so messy the SCOTUS will decree a nationwide ban

It's all part of the plan. Throw it back to the states, which causes conflict between competing laws in different states, which results in legal cases that will make their way to the SCOTUS so that a complete, nationwide ban can be decreed. Create chaos in order to make a permanent nationwide ban.

This is why we HAVE to elect more Democratic senators to make Manchin and Sinema irrelevant. Then we can abolish the filibuster and pass laws protecting a woman's right to her own body.

[lastlib]

18. Let's set this straight--

Right wingers believe that abortion laws (like all other laws) belong to *Right-wingers*. They believe they exclusively have the God-given right to make the laws for everyone else.

[DENVERPOPS]

19. yup, that's it..........

They believe they exclusively have the God-given right to make the laws for everyone else.

Then there are the right wingers that think they are God, Trump etc

[Wounded Bear]

21. They do shit like that to fake people into thinking they actually have varying views...

in the party. The fact is when push comes to shove they are in lock step. The 1%-ers don't really give a shit, they just want the power, knowing that the petty restrictions imposed by the government on the little people won't really apply to them anyway.

[dalton99a]

24. Correct. Their goal is a nationwide ban.

Revocation of rights will be nationwide

[Midnight Writer]

26. Republicans will outlaw abortion nationwide if they get control of Congress.

And the Supreme Court will uphold it.