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CousinIT

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Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:26 AM Jun 2022

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Solution? More hearings. Tetrachloride Jun 2022 #1
There are more hearings in July. This isn't going away. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #2
Noted. Question, the three justices deemed unqualified were Kavanaugh, Barrett and ?? c-rational Jun 2022 #3
Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett were all rated "well qualified", by the ABA. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Claustrum Jun 2022 #10
This is not a conspiracy. Novara Jun 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #7
No it wasn't. Novara Jun 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #19
it's not a conspiracy Novara Jun 2022 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #24
Max effect would have been releasing the decision on the first day of hearings... PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #13
Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett were all rated "well qualified", by the ABA. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2022 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #14
A lot of people are talking. Just spoke to a red state friend MerryHolidays Jun 2022 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #20
Marketing... BlueJac Jun 2022 #8
The SC ends its term every June Effete Snob Jun 2022 #11
Thank you. Novara Jun 2022 #15
Roe vs. Wade Casady1 Jun 2022 #16
Coincidence? Maybe. gab13by13 Jun 2022 #17
J6 hasn't gone away.. agingdem Jun 2022 #18
EXACTLY. This level of conspiracy theorizing here on DU is disturbing. vanlassie Jun 2022 #21
The old DU 9/11 forum was useful Effete Snob Jun 2022 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #30
If the SC makes June decrees didn't the Jan 6 com know that? JanMichael Jun 2022 #22
The J6 Committee must have also been in on it Effete Snob Jun 2022 #26
There's a mole on the Jan 6 committee. Dr. Strange Jun 2022 #34
Kagan, Sotomayor, and Breyer are in on it too Effete Snob Jun 2022 #36
Of course the committee knew that. Novara Jun 2022 #28
I didn't use the sarcasm thingy JanMichael Jun 2022 #29
Exactly JohnSJ Jun 2022 #32
Makes sense... Zeitghost Jun 2022 #27
It will turn out to be a good thing because when they restart, it gives people time to absorb the JohnSJ Jun 2022 #31
No one? Sneederbunk Jun 2022 #33
Everyone knew this ruling was due out about this time. The hearings however go into July Raven123 Jun 2022 #35
I'm tired of this conspiracy theory... brooklynite Jun 2022 #37
That was the plan n/t malaise Jun 2022 #38

Tetrachloride

(9,617 posts)
1. Solution? More hearings.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:28 AM
Jun 2022

Ocelot II

(130,487 posts)
2. There are more hearings in July. This isn't going away.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:31 AM
Jun 2022

The 1/6 Committee's evidence hasn't been forgotten and much more is to come.

c-rational

(3,201 posts)
3. Noted. Question, the three justices deemed unqualified were Kavanaugh, Barrett and ??
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:31 AM
Jun 2022

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
9. Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett were all rated "well qualified", by the ABA. n/t
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:35 AM
Jun 2022

Response to c-rational (Reply #3)

Novara

(6,115 posts)
4. This is not a conspiracy.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:32 AM
Jun 2022

The SCOTUS always releases its opinions in June, and they always wait until the end of June to release the most controversial ones. Why don't you blame the J6 committee for scheduling hearings in June, if you think it's a conspiracy? The J6 committee is well aware of the SCOTUS schedule.

There was no coordination. Gah, quit seeing conspiracies everywhere. It's bad enough the other side thinks every single thing is a nefarious conspiracy.

If they REALLY wanted to fuck up the hearings they would have released this opinion on Thursday, before the hearing.

And another thing. Your complaint sounds like you're telling us women we need to move on. America needs time to rage, grieve, and organize. The J6 hearings break is giving us that time. The hearings will resume after the holiday on the 4th.

Response to Novara (Reply #4)

Novara

(6,115 posts)
12. No it wasn't.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jun 2022

The SCOTUS opinions are ALWAYS rendered in June. There was no nefarious planning here. If you want to BLAME, then blame the J6 committee for holding hearings when the SCOTUS usually renders its opinions.

Sheesh, people, not everything is a conspiracy.

Response to Novara (Reply #12)

Novara

(6,115 posts)
23. it's not a conspiracy
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:53 AM
Jun 2022

Boy, I don't want to live thinking every single thing that happens is someone's nasty plot to make me miserable. Why would others look for conspiracies everywhere?

This is a timing issue, nothing more. The SCOTUS always releases opinions in June. The J6 committee wanted to present its findings earlier in the year, but more and more information was coming in and they couldn't. It looks to me that they scheduled the hearings not to fuck with the SCOTUS schedule but to get the public the information as soon as they could reasonably present it, leaving themselves time to schedule additional hearings before the midterms if necessary. And that turned out to be necessary because people have been contacting the committee after each hearing with even MORE information. I believe it's a GOOD THING that these hearings are going to drag out through the summer!

This is a timing issue, not a conspiracy. As I've said, if it really was a conspiracy, the SCOTUS could have released an odious opinion every single day there was a hearing. Now if they had done that, I'd believe it was a conspiracy to distract. They didn't release the worst of their opinions until after the first hearings and before the next set. That alone tells me there was no conspiracy here.

Response to Novara (Reply #23)

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
13. Max effect would have been releasing the decision on the first day of hearings...
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jun 2022

which they could have easily done with very little planning.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
5. Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett were all rated "well qualified", by the ABA. n/t
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:33 AM
Jun 2022

Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #5)

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
6. A lot of people are talking. Just spoke to a red state friend
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:33 AM
Jun 2022

who said a growing number of people are jettisoning Trump. That's good, but not good enough.

In addition to Trump and his henchpeople paying a price for J6, the Republican Party cannot be allowed to wash their hands of their support of Trump.

The fury against the abortion decision will maintain, and there will be more and more J6 hearings and revelations.

Response to MerryHolidays (Reply #6)

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
8. Marketing...
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:34 AM
Jun 2022

Bait and switch topics! Propaganda 101

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
11. The SC ends its term every June
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jun 2022

The “I’m suspicious of the timing” thing is particularly dumb in this context, given that the SC ends its term EVERY JUNE, EVERY YEAR.

The timing of the announcement of major decisions of the term is pretty simple - AROUND THE END OF JUNE. Every year.

The J6 Committee does not run on a fixed annual schedule and can schedule their hearings for whenever they like.

But, nope, for decade after decade, the SC rigged their calendar a hundred years in advance, just to screw with the J6 committee

https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/procedures.aspx

A Term of the Supreme Court begins, by statute, on the first Monday in October. Usually Court sessions continue until late June or early July.

It’s a massive coverup. We need fuzzy YouTube videos and grainy photographs to figure this out.


Novara

(6,115 posts)
15. Thank you.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:40 AM
Jun 2022

Logic is failing here.

I am really disgusted when our side looks for nefarious conspiracies in everything. If there was a conspiracy, it could have been planned a whole lot better! For example, the SCOTUS could have released an opinion every single morning there was a hearing throughout the month.

Sheesh.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
16. Roe vs. Wade
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:42 AM
Jun 2022

is a much better issue to run on. As far as Jan. 6th hearings this will be viewed by each group as tribal. Very few people will cahnge their opinions. The Roe decision is way more personal and will cut across party lines.

gab13by13

(32,277 posts)
17. Coincidence? Maybe.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:43 AM
Jun 2022

When CNN got the orders to not use the term "The Big Lie," I haven't heard news anchors use it. I haven't heard MSNBC anchors use it.

It was getting repeated too often which sticks with people.

agingdem

(8,838 posts)
18. J6 hasn't gone away..
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:43 AM
Jun 2022

they'll be back in a few weeks...the break has given us a chance to catch our breaths and absorb the vastness of the conspiracy..and as to Roe V Wade, the J6 delay is allowing us to mourn, rage, and unify...

vanlassie

(6,248 posts)
21. EXACTLY. This level of conspiracy theorizing here on DU is disturbing.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:50 AM
Jun 2022

Let’s use our critical thinking skills, people.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
25. The old DU 9/11 forum was useful
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:55 AM
Jun 2022

…since it was helpful to know who also bought into crap like “no plane hit the Pentagon” etc., to put some of their other postings in a broader perspective.

There’s an active “who paid Kavanaugh’s debts?” thread which once again demonstrates how there are certain folks “just asking questions” aren’t really looking for answers. What’s funny about that thread is the OP actually links to an article answering that question, but it is obvious that no one read the article.

Response to Effete Snob (Reply #25)

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
22. If the SC makes June decrees didn't the Jan 6 com know that?
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:50 AM
Jun 2022

Bad timing on who?

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
26. The J6 Committee must have also been in on it
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jun 2022

You’ve cracked the case!

Dr. Strange

(26,058 posts)
34. There's a mole on the Jan 6 committee.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:38 AM
Jun 2022

This thing goes right to the top!

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
36. Kagan, Sotomayor, and Breyer are in on it too
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 12:01 PM
Jun 2022

Obviously, they would have known about the plot to just keep the decision in the can, and they prepared the final version of their dissent months ago, so that the majority could pick the timing.

So fucking dumb.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
28. Of course the committee knew that.
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:58 AM
Jun 2022

It wasn't bad timing. Remember that the J6 committee wanted to start the hearings much earlier, but due to the amount of information and depositions they couldn't. It looks to me that they are getting the information to us as quickly as they reasonably could compile it. And wow, they are doing such a good job, I wouldn't have wanted that process to be rushed.

We have time to grieve, rage, and organize about Roe before the next set of hearings begins. In my mind, this is good timing. They released this decision in-between hearings, and sticking to their regular schedule.

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
29. I didn't use the sarcasm thingy
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:02 AM
Jun 2022
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
32. Exactly
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:26 AM
Jun 2022
 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
27. Makes sense...
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 10:57 AM
Jun 2022

All 6 were actually pro-choice and fierce defenders of Roe. But they decided to cast that aside to run media interference for Trump.


Or maybe they were paid off to do so.



Or maybe, just maybe, right wing administrations with the advice and consent of right wing senators appointed and confirmed right wing justices who released a decision during the normal court schedule. Sounds crazy, I know.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
31. It will turn out to be a good thing because when they restart, it gives people time to absorb the
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:25 AM
Jun 2022

devastating SC, so when they start again it will be apparent that the Republican Party is the greatest threat to women, and our democracy

Sneederbunk

(17,481 posts)
33. No one?
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:28 AM
Jun 2022

Raven123

(7,788 posts)
35. Everyone knew this ruling was due out about this time. The hearings however go into July
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jun 2022
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
37. I'm tired of this conspiracy theory...
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 12:05 PM
Jun 2022

First, the Committee knew it was holding a Hearing the day before the last scheduled opinion date of the Court session.

Second, the Committee findings were the focus of the Thursday newscasts and the Friday morning newspapers.

Third, there will be subsequent Committee hearings leading up to the biggest evidence. That's how the Committee has structured things.

malaise

(295,937 posts)
38. That was the plan n/t
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 12:10 PM
Jun 2022
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