Biden should hold prime time address where lawyers rip apart the Dobbs decision

[TomDaisy]

Biden should hold national prime time address where he has lawyers publicly rip apart the Dobbs decision and all the lies, malice, and bad shitty misleading legal work therein. Publicly humiliate the Court. And also explain the rights they are coming for next. Call the Court rampaging and out of control

[spooky3]

1. I think it would be better to explain to voters

What they can do to change the situation.

[Effete Snob]

2. Yep

It was obvious to me that if Trump won, we'd lose Roe v. Wade.

There was a Supreme Court nomination up in the air DURING that election.

And yet...

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/politics/white-women-helped-elect-donald-trump.html

More than half of the white women who voted in the presidential election cast their ballot for Donald J. Trump, according to exit poll data collected by The New York Times.

The data indicate how deeply divided Americans are by race and gender: 94 percent of black women who voted and 68 percent of Hispanic or Latino female voters chose Hillary Clinton, but 53 percent of all white female voters picked Mr. Trump.

The data can be broken down further: 51 percent of white women with college degrees voted for Mrs. Clinton, while 62 percent of women without one voted for Mr. Trump, a reflection of his success with working-class whites.

Clinton made it clear what was at stake - more white women chose to vote for this than not.

[spooky3]

3. Per Pew research, using better data than exit polling, FEWER than half

Of white women voted for Trump.

White men, especially older white men without a college degree, are the most consistent Republican voters.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/

[Effete Snob]

4. You left out something

You fail to mention that even the Pew result (deemed "better" for reasons not stated) shows that MORE white women voted for Trump than Clinton.


The page you linked has Trump with a 2 point advantage over Clinton among white women.

As I mentioned in my post:

"more white women chose to vote for this than not."

Which is also shown in the data you linked.

[spooky3]

5. The Pew summary describes the methodology. If you read it

You will see why their data are better than exit poll data.

Nothing I said was inaccurate.

You quoted the NY Times as stating that “more than half of white women… voted for Trump.” You even put it in bold. This is what I responded to and it is NOT accurate. Exit poll data are entirely self reported, and then statistically adjusted by the pollsters.

The Pew research study is more reliable.

Instead of arguing with me, read the study.

[Effete Snob]

6. The Pew research agrees with what I said

I am not the New York Times.

The New York Times indeed said "more than half".

However, since you are talking to me, and not the New York Times, you might want to address what I said. It is located beneath the NYT quote, where I said that more white women voted for Trump than for Clinton.

The Pew study SHOWS THAT MORE WHITE WOMEN VOTED FOR TRUMP THAN FOR CLINTON.

Unless you want to argue that 45 (the percent for Clinton) is larger than 48 (the percent for Trump), then I think it is pretty clear that what I said is correct.

If you want to argue with what the NYT said, that's fine. But that's not what I said just below it.

But, the ultimate point relevant to where we are now is that more white women voted for this outcome than voted against it. That is not even a point that Pew or you, dispute.