I have a suspicion that the people blaming Democrats

[BaronChocula]

for not previously codifying Roe v. Wade did not vote for Democrats in every election in every place at every level.

[MOMFUDSKI]

1. I am 74 yrs old

and have never missed a vote and have always voted for the dem. Once for Newtie in a Florida primary just to be a pain in the ass.

[Effete Snob]

2. I have a feeling that many of them don't really understand Constitutional law very well either

People have weird ideas about how the dual state and federal sovereignties work. There are some areas in which the federal government has exclusive authority. There are some areas in which states have exclusive authority. Then, there are some areas where these powers overlap, and there are rules for sorting out which one prevails.

There are some people who think there is an automatic "federal law pre-empts all state laws" but that's simply not true, and it depends on the subject matter.

Simply believing that a federal "codify Roe v. Wade" statute would hold up against state laws to the contrary is based on a simplistic view of how the court sorts out "who can do what" in state/federal scheme.

Aside from which Roe had already been substantially narrowed by Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992), which specifically said that states have the power to regulate abortion in ways that do not present an "undue burden" to the basic right.

It was THAT decision that essentially spawned the cottage industry of coming up with various waiting periods, mandatory ultrasounds, etc., so that there was an unending stream of cases that could be run up the flagpole to test the waters to see if it was going to be a good time to go ahead and ban it to see what the court would do.

But Casey, not Roe, has been the defining authority on state abortion restrictions for three decades now (which is why the Dobbs decision refers to it as well).

I think, in general, we reached a point where people don't really fucking care to figure how the US system of government works anyway.

[peggysue2]

3. I share your suspicion

We should always ask who or what does this finger-pointing/circular firing squad help?

The responsibility for the overturn of Roe v Wade is clearly the Republican Party which has given a green light to religious extremists and their far-right cheerleaders who are systematically laying the groundwork for an authoritarian takeover. Making citizens feel hopeless and despairing is the point; they want that level of hopelessness and despair to increase thereby rendering the electorate into a level of paralysis, the woe is me, there's nothing that can be done, Repugs and Dems are all the same, yada, yada.

As Dems we cannot afford to take the bait.

Clearheaded perseverance and determination is required.

Don't take the bait. Keep your eyes on the goal and vote these suckers out, push them all into the deep blue sea.

Without lifejackets!

[arthritisR_US]

9. Who set up the 3rd party? Answer:Putin. If you read

Malcom Nance’s books you know just how far and deep his troll farms go and are still at it on steroid speed.

[iemanja]

4. Of course they didn't

And they are deflecting to excuse their own culpability.

[Generic Brad]

6. Not in every instance

My daughter and her husband are both extremely progressive and highly educated. Yet they constantly blame Pelosi, Biden, and the Democratic party for all the things Republicans have recently done - claiming Democrats could have stopped the shitshow at any time if they had tried. They go so far as to say that both parties are the same anyway so there is no point in even voting.

I have no idea why my daughter echos Susan Sarandon because she sure never heard it from my wife and I.

[Wounded Bear]

10. Seems likely...nt

[Behind the Aegis]

11. I feel many complaining (IRL) likely don't vote much or at all.

More to the point, many of those complaining more than likely only vote in presidential elections, failing to see how important ALL elections are, especially state and local ones.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

12. I share that belief

[David__77]

13. It would really help if it would get a vote.

Would it really be so wrong if people concluded that tactical considerations prevented it from coming to a vote? Even if it lost, there’s some benefit to it being voted on, precisely to avoid such criticism.

[JI7]

14. It's the usual trolls like those yelling about TPP during 2016 convention

[Hortensis]

15. Of course many, perhaps most did not. Not "understanding" why Democrats

didn't do this and that is often a giveaway that they don't know that Democrats did and are -- often many times -- or why they didn't, don't and aren't for serious, deliberate reasons. That's because they weren't involved enough to know why and remember.

Many never got involved enough to even understand the Democratic Party's liberal progressive principles and ideals -- hell, too often easily convinced by hostiles that they don't really exist or at best are weak noise. How many of us have even scanned our extremely lengthy party platform even once, or the parts we're interested in, compared how many times we heard we're "corrupt corporatists" (two easily remembered big-lie words over, and over, and over, and over again).

That said, anyone who aligns with us is us, thank goodness! Each vote actually cast FOR Democrats is as powerful and needed as anyone's.

[mcar]

16. They still want to bring on the "revolution"

[mzmolly]

17. It seems they

have.

[betsuni]

18. Yes. They don't know anything.