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Sun Jun 26, 2022, 03:57 PM

I am sick to death of the "if we had only done X" arguments

Enough bashing each other for what SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Revisiting 2016 or the stolen SCOTUS seat or the fucking Jill Stein voters is not going to make our lives any better this day.

What can we do NOW?

Have you written letters to your congresspeople? Made calls? Sent money for abortion travel? Attended a protest?

No? What the fuck are you waiting for, someone else to do the work for you? If you want to save America, then let's get to work.

We need EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US to be engaged and furious and to do whatever we can. Whining about the past won't do a damn thing.


Tell me what you've done.

I've written my Senators and I've donated money for abortion funds. Tell me what you've done.

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Reply I am sick to death of the "if we had only done X" arguments (Original post)
Novara Jun 26 OP
Walleye Jun 26 #1
Novara Jun 26 #2
Chin music Jun 26 #3
usonian Jun 26 #4
ripcord Jun 26 #5
chowder66 Jun 26 #6
treestar Jun 26 #7
Irish_Dem Jun 26 #8
demmiblue Jun 26 #9
spooky3 Jun 26 #10
JI7 Jun 26 #11
Emile Jun 26 #12
JI7 Jun 26 #13
Emile Jun 26 #14
JI7 Jun 26 #15
Emile Jun 26 #16
JI7 Jun 26 #17
Emile Jun 26 #18
JI7 Jun 26 #20
Emile Jun 26 #23
JI7 Jun 26 #24
Emile Jun 26 #25
JI7 Jun 26 #26
Emile Jun 26 #27
Skittles Jun 26 #19
JI7 Jun 26 #21
Skittles Jun 26 #22
LongtimeAZDem Jun 27 #28

Response to Novara (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 04:06 PM

1. Yes.Shoulda, woulda, coulda is magical thinking.

It is not productive. Nobody knows what would’ve happened if we had done so and so. Nobody knows, period. What can we do now, is much more productive.

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Response to Walleye (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 04:09 PM

2. Yes, thank you.

We have to get engaged and stay engaged to change this hellscape for women. No amount of lamenting the past will help us do that.

I am just as angry as everybody else for what didn't happen. But we can't change the past.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 04:16 PM

4. I addressed this yesterday under a sneaky "LOOK AT ME" title.

I'll copy it since it reinforces your point!
Thank you for posting it.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216848250
How many times have I thought up a really nice reply, but not fast enough to beat the gong.

Blamers, you get the gong, you're projecting.

We have strong leadership, just not charismatic leadership.

Do you know who finishes the job they started?





KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE PRIZE.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216821536
Donate money, time, write postcards, make calls like your life depends on it, because it does, and so do millions of others.

Every Accusation is a Confession
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216777247

The "Election Integrity" grift is pure felony theft.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216813088

These, and the fake elector plan might peel some people loose from the "Party of Nothing"
Some Republicans felt ‘duped’ by Team Trump’s fake electors plot
And they may pay a price for their complicity.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/republicans-felt-duped-team-trumps-fake-electors-plot-rcna34780
“We were kind of useful idiots or rubes at that point,” said Robert Sinners, a former Trump campaign staffer, adding he now feels he was misled about the effort. “I’m angry because I think, in a sense, no one really cared if people were potentially putting themselves in jeopardy.”


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Response to Novara (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 04:20 PM

5. You have to let people work through this

I too thought that it was no help to think about things that should have been but then I thought a little more and came to understand that many people are still in shock and having problems processing this. The decision just came down on Friday, give people a chance to come to terms with this idiocy and they will begin to deal with it rationally.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 04:22 PM

6. Me too. It only serves to distract.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 04:23 PM

7. we gotta be more like the righties with their tireless energy

we never seem to get fired up, either we take it for granted, maybe, feel entitled, whatever it is we need to shake it off.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 05:30 PM

8. When there is a tragedy humans typically want the 'black box." They want to understand what happened

I don't have a problem with some soul searching, it is perfectly normal.

At some point we have to take what we learn, make some changes, and move forward.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 05:41 PM

9. Indeed, that's why I have a healthy ignore list.

It's never-ending with some people. Personally, I suspect that they enjoy the negativity, division and drama.



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Response to Novara (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 05:46 PM

10. Donated to several candidates, including Fetterman, Ryan, and Warnock, because

If we can win/hold these seats plus hold others Dems now occupy, we will “control” the Senate even without the votes of Manchin and Sinema.

Luckily, my reps in the state, and in the House and Senate, are all strong Dems, so they will vote the right ways.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 05:49 PM

11. It's important to call out the truth and how people like Jill Stein wanted Republicans to win

We can't let people lie and claim they are progressives when they are not.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 06:13 PM

12. What constructive ways and suggestions do you have to win back the

voters Jill Stein corrupted?

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Response to Emile (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 06:19 PM

13. If they need to be won back they are not pro choice

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Response to JI7 (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 06:29 PM

14. Then why keep bringing her up?

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Response to Emile (Reply #14)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 06:44 PM

15. Same reason to bring up anyone that attacks Democrats and try to help

Republicans.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 06:56 PM

16. She hasn't been in the news for years.

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Response to Emile (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 07:00 PM

17. Many things are not on "the news" . Reagan has been dead for years

and we still bring him up.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 07:18 PM

18. Reagan was a republican president. Has Jill Stein ever won

a political seat ever?

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Response to Emile (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 07:21 PM

20. So we can't talk about someone unless they won an election ?

What kind of bs is that ?

She continues to attack Democrats and we can't bring up the truth about ?

Why so defensive about an obvious Troll like Jill Stein?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 07:43 PM

23. I just think she is a waste of time.

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Response to Emile (Reply #23)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 07:57 PM

24. Then why are you talking about about her here ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #24)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 08:16 PM

25. Trying to understand. Do you think she cost us

the election?

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Response to Emile (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 08:30 PM

26. Yes, she was part of the Russian attacks that coordinated with other Republicans

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Response to JI7 (Reply #26)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 08:33 PM

27. Thanks, I never knew much about her.

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 07:20 PM

19. I disagree

I will forever be saying FUCK YOU to those who voted third party or didn't vote (*for Repukes that is a given)

AND I HAVE DONE PLENTY

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Response to Skittles (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 07:23 PM

21. ++++

Last edited Sun Jun 26, 2022, 08:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Especially since most of them do the same thing every election.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 26, 2022, 07:24 PM

22. I see them constantly excusing themselves

*revised statement to avoid the purists, original still stands

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Response to Novara (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2022, 03:54 PM

28. You can't unring a bell. This is going to be very, very hard.

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