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In It to Win It

(8,251 posts)
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:04 PM Jun 2022

Why Florida isn't losing the right to an abortion ... yet

Tampa Bay Times

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While the overturn of Roe v. Wade dramatically alters the landscape of abortion rights nationally, in Florida, the decision has no immediate effect on the legality of abortion.

That’s because Florida’s abortion laws have to fall within the boundaries of not one, but two constitutions, said Danaya Wright, a professor of law at the University of Florida.

The first is the U.S. Constitution, which no longer protects a person’s right to abortion following the U.S. Supreme Court’s bombshell decision this week in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization.

The second is the Florida Constitution.

47 words, one controversy

The difference in protections largely comes down to the 1980 inclusion of a 47-word amendment to the Florida Constitution guaranteeing the right to privacy.

“Every natural person has the right to be let alone and free from governmental intrusion into the person’s private life except as otherwise provided herein,” the document reads.

But the U.S. Constitution doesn’t specifically include the word privacy in its text.

The Florida constitution does. In a 1989 case, the state’s Supreme Court ruled that the privacy clause covered the right to an abortion.

What did voters mean in 1980?

In 1989, the Florida Supreme Court ruled that the state Constitution offered extensive protections for abortion rights. Its opinion was largely concerned with defining “privacy” in a constitutional sense.

“We can conceive of few more personal or private decisions concerning one’s body that one can make in the course of a lifetime,” the opinion read.

John Stemberger, a conservative lawyer who’s been a leader in the push to restrict abortion rights in Florida, said that court was litigating the wrong question. They should have been asking what voters understood “privacy” to mean when they approved the 1980 constitutional amendment, he said.

While most Florida voters say in polls that they want to protect abortion access, for the last quarter-century, they have also sent Republican majorities to Tallahassee — the party that is largely hostile to abortion rights.
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Why Florida isn't losing the right to an abortion ... yet (Original Post) In It to Win It Jun 2022 OP
So their argument is that people in Florida were too dumb to know what the word privacy means? Walleye Jun 2022 #1
If He Wants To Get The Nomination SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #2
Their argument is that In It to Win It Jun 2022 #3
Wow...I'm shocked that FL has a right to privacy clause in its constitution. roamer65 Jun 2022 #4
Yes In It to Win It Jun 2022 #5
I'm glad I'm a card carrying ACLU member. roamer65 Jun 2022 #6

Walleye

(31,022 posts)
1. So their argument is that people in Florida were too dumb to know what the word privacy means?
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:10 PM
Jun 2022

How is DeSantis going to be able to deal with this? He needs to prove what a right wing dictator he is

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
2. If He Wants To Get The Nomination
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:14 PM
Jun 2022

And he expects to court TFG's voters, he'll need to go big, or go home.

And at least the majority of Floridians Are dumb, so there's that.

In It to Win It

(8,251 posts)
3. Their argument is that
Sun Jun 26, 2022, 11:17 PM
Jun 2022

Floridians at the time did not include the right to abortion in their privacy right, or whatever mind-reading "originalism" bullshit.

I recall also reading previously that the state Supreme Court (I didn't read the actual opinion itself) found it reasonable that Floridians would have thought about abortion in the right to privacy because it was 1980, a time in which Roe had already been decided and the right to an abortion was tied to the right to privacy.

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