Maybe I have Missed Mention of This Possible Partial Roe Pushback

[The Roux Comes First]

Here or elsewhere, but I found this brand-new and a bit encouraging.

A good friend is currently on work assignment in OK. When queried about the local attitude to the SC decision and all, his comment was that much of that state is not subject to SC jurisdiction. If you can put up a casino and sell fireworks when they're illegal elsewhere, why not a clinic?? I'm sure PP would happily collaborate!

Love to see Native Americans get in on this action, and, who knows, possibly to the point of a whole new generation of NA MDs.

[DURHAM D]

1. Who/what is PP?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. I suspect he means Planned Parenthood. n/t

[Ocelot II]

3. It's not that simple.

https://lpeproject.org/blog/the-indian-country-abortion-safe-harbor-fallacy/

[roamer65]

4. It will be the choice of Native American tribal councils and their people.

They best consult their lawyers first.

I hate to see them get dragged into a problem that we created and we need to solve ourselves.

[Ocelot II]

6. Not exactly.

The United States prohibits tribes from exercising criminal jurisdiction over non-Indian United States citizens, except in very limited circumstances. A non-Indian who provided abortion care to a non-Indian patient would violate state criminal laws, subjecting both parties to state prosecution, even if the care was provided in Indian country.

Native abortion care providers and Native patients likely also fall under state criminal prohibitions if the particular tribal lands are subject to concurrent state criminal jurisdiction through enabling federal statutes such as Public Law (P.L.) 280, or comparable state-specific statutes like those in Kansas, Maine, and New York. With limited exceptions, P.L. 280 extends state criminal law to Native lands in Alaska, California, Minnesota, Nebraska, Oregon, and Wisconsin, as well as to certain reservations in Florida, Idaho and Washington.

https://lpeproject.org/blog/the-indian-country-abortion-safe-harbor-fallacy/

[roamer65]

8. That's why I said they will need to consult attorneys.

Personally, I don’t think they should get involved. Let the Europeans solve the problem that they themselves created, I would tell them.

[DURHAM D]

5. Nope.

This Supreme Court would cancel all treaty/agreements, kick them off their land and sell it to the oil companies.

[SoCalDavidS]

7. America Is Such A Great Country, Always Has Been, We've Treated The Indians So Well.

[delisen]

9. At that point as long as we hold the Exec Branch we will win. the Supreme Ct has no Army

The SC has no enforcement power. R It cannot enforce its orders.

As already pointed out your the other justices the majority ruling on overturning Roe was not done under the rule of law but under the rule of men. A Supreme Court which has lost its credibility has lost its power because thast power came from the people.
The power of the court “derives” from us.

At present the overwhelming majority of us no longer have confidence in the Supreme Court. We have been telling ourselves that we have nowhere to go beyond the Supreme Court and gnashing our teeth. actually the opposite is true. They have nowhere to go.

The grand plan was destroyed when We the People did not give Trump a second term. Ginni Thomas knew this which is why she eventually sent the addled email to the White House urging to ”release the Kracken.”

Trump had tried to stay in power but he failed. He couldn’t turn the military, he couldn’t pressure his VP., he couldn’t intimidate Fulton. County GA or the Secretary of State of GA., he couldn’t win in the courts he had packed. Even his militias had to settle for occupying just the Capitol bldg because not enough of them showed up for their sedition D-Day.

When we denied Trump a second term and he failed to weasel in on his own, Putin’s plan to take over Ukraine with minimal opposition was doomed: it is why the Federalist Society’s plot to undermine the Constitution is doomed. It is why the men sitting on their Peacock thrones in Tallahassee, in Austin, and in Little Rock and elsewhere are doomed to failure.

Putin and the Federalist Society continued their plots but without Trump to thwart NATO, Putin had to resort to genocide and revealed the nakedness of the Russian military; The packed Supreme Court is throwing everything they can at us to destroy the country of human rights and equality but without Trump to declare Martial Law they cannot halt the Tsunami heading their way. and so it goes.

I say let’s not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The insanity of the courts rulings and it plans for future rulings as revealed by Thomas are going to be dissected in public for months. Universities will be in session. We are going to be energized and on the move.

I say, let’s rally and not waste time trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.