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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs this the first time SCOTUS has taken away an established Right?
I know there have been cases where they didn't convey a Right they should have. But have they ever before taken away an established Right?
Not an historian, and not sure if Japanese Internment fits.
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)...to get drunk!
edhopper
(33,579 posts)and the States.
JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)...thanks for the correction!
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)To drink ... rather, it took away the right to SELL alcohol.
Best_man23
(4,898 posts)The SC historians haven't truly waded in yet, but I'm betting some are quietly comparing the Dobbs opinion to the Dred Scott decision.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)Separated at birth. Roberts will go into the dustbin of history as one of the worst Chief Justices.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)He voted to save Obamacare when the conservatives were going to end it, and he didnt vote to end Roe, either. Roberts is a bad Chief Justice but he could be far, far worse.
exboyfil
(17,863 posts)You actually think those anarchists have any desire to actually govern in any meaningful way. He took the hit with the conservatives to ensure they had a punching bag for the GOP going forward. It worked. They played the long game. We lost both Houses for a while and the Presidency (long enough to lock in permanent minority rule).
The only reason he wasn't in full throated support with the other five in Dobbs is his "legacy".
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)There was no constitutional right for a black person (who by the way wasn't even considered a whole person) in the US to be free in 1857.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)Constitutionally sanctioned or not, there were state laws in both states that should have freed him and his family.
Presumably other slaves were freed when their owners stayed in Wisconsin and Illinois for extended periods.
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Prohibition was a congressional act, then codified with an amendment, then reversed. The Court didn't impose or un-impose anything.
Women lost the right to bodily autonomy, and the right to privacy in their intimate affairs, including family planning, and access to the complete range of female health and wellness care.
Groundhawg
(550 posts)To own slaves. There probably have been others.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)Not SCOTUS
Groundhawg
(550 posts)It's not like RVW was recognized from the beginning.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Because a SC decision and a constitutional amendment are two very different things.
Groundhawg
(550 posts)I'm not sure it matters. The right to own slaves was clearly enumerated. Plus, I don't see where the op cared which constitutional rights taken away were due to how they were instituted.
Even the 14th amendment that allows abortion wasn't in the original constitution.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)It's not what I am asking. I am asking about SCOTUS not the country.
Groundhawg
(550 posts)Has the SCOTUS taken away a right that they gave us vs when have the taken away a right codified into the constitution?
I really can't see how that makes a difference.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)It's really not that difficult to understand.
"Is this the first time SCOTUS has taken away an established Right"
Groundhawg
(550 posts)Or one given by a 50 year old supreme court ruling. What am I missing here?
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Brown ended the racists right to keep their lily white kids away form the local black kids.
Which led to integration and busing, which led to the GOP needing a wedge issue after they lost on segregation.
Long game, indeed.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)... in their decision of Brown vs. Board of Education.
Not sure if that's what you mean though.
dalton99a
(81,486 posts)Traitors and thieves
Voltaire2
(13,033 posts)Undid the 14th amendment equality requirements and enabled legal segregation. Millions of African Americans lost their rights for decades.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)Plessy could have ended it, but it did the reverse. Separate but equal was the way things were. Now we have legal abortion made illegal.
Voltaire2
(13,033 posts)It made segregation legal.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)it was already how things were in much of the country. There was no governmental agency trying to end segregation. And the government itself, like the military, was segregated. It wasn't like there was no segregation and then after Plessy, it happened.
Plessy was because the railroads were segregated.The Court confirmed that separate but equal upheld the 14th. It took over 50 years to reverse it.
Voltaire2
(13,033 posts)Plessy confirmed the power of states to impose segregation.
Dobbs confirmed the power of states to criminalize abortions.
I have no idea why you are insisting that Plessy is not equivalent.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)abortion was legal after Roe. The Court said it was a Right. There was no ruling against segregation before Plessy. It was the norm and not challenged by any governmental entity.
Can't see why you don't see the difference.
Deep State Witch
(10,426 posts)I believe the only time that rights were taken away was the Dred Scott decision, but that was for free People of Color.