Overturning Roe is going to tear apart the Republican Party for this reason.

[fightforfreedom]

The pro life fascist, extremist, part of the Republican Party has been emboldened by this decision. They are planning to pass unbelievable laws in certain Republican states in order to enforce it.

Pence is calling for a nation wide ban. They would have to pass a lot of laws to enforce that. A police state for abortion?

There is talk of sending women to psychiatric institutions if they have an abortion.

There is talk of making it a crime if people go to another state for an abortion.

There is talk of passing laws to make it a crime to give advice, talk about abortions, even on-line.

This decision has unleashed the crazies in the Republican Party. At least 50% of Republicans did not want Roe overturned. Right there you can see how this is going to fracture the party.

This decision has hit our country like an earthquake. The Republican Party has set off a firestorm. It was inevitable their extremism would catch up to them at some point. I believe we have reached that point. Look what their extremism did to the Supreme Court. Absolutely destroyed its reputation. Thomas is telling everyone what other rights he wants to take away. I don't think you can honestly call it a court any longer.

History was on their side in the upcoming midterms. That is no longer the case. People are going to come out and vote in big numbers this November.

[Demsrule86]

1. I believe you are correct. Great post K&R...

[skydive forever]

19. Nice party you got there, it'd be a shame if something happened to it

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. I sure hope you're right, my dear fightforfreedom! We have to work like hell to make it happen. n/t

[multigraincracker]

3. Not good for growing a Party.

Great way to stir up a shrinking base.

[lefthandedskyhook]

9. Stir, boil and BREAK it!

.

[Novara]

4. I don't think we're close yet.

Going after women was their low-hanging fruit. They're DYING to overturn Obergefell. Griswold will go.

I'll tell you when we have reached the point when their extremism catches up with them: when they go after Loving.

They're just getting started.

[lefthandedskyhook]

7. Loving?

With Ginni and Clarence? OH!

[blueinredohio]

31. I agree 100% and its not like we haven't known it.

They have been telling us for years when they got the chance they would do it.

[lefthandedskyhook]

5. That's good news

May this trend continue against the repugnant-life-form party

[llmart]

6. I sure hope you're right.

I wish I had your optimism. We need a super majority in both houses of Congress and more governorships and Dem state legislatures. That means getting every single person we can to vote, especially younger people. After all, these draconian laws are going to affect them more than someone my age.

[fightforfreedom]

11. I believe young people are going to vote in big numbers this November.

I have seen a lot of young women crying on TV. They know this puts their lives in danger.

[llmart]

13. As I said, I wish I had your optimism.

To young people, November is years away. Being young gives them the ability to still believe "it'll never happen" with regards to birth control, but they're coming for that make no mistake about it. Speaking of that, will condoms be pulled from the shelves too? Great! More std's, more unwanted babies, hey and don't forget you young guys - 18 years of child support if you start spreading your seed too far and wide!

I hope Democrats have tables set up all over college campuses from the first day of classes and make it easy for young people to register.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

8. The GOP has hugly miscalculated IMO.

Many Republicans--including TFG if reports are to be believed--know an electoral backlash is coming.

Part of the Republican sales job has always been about supposedly opposing government "intrusion" into the lives of individual Americans.

This development makes a mockery of that supposed stance.

They will have hell to pay in November.

[usonian]

15. Intrusion was always a one-way street with them.

I've been beating the drum about their "do as I say, not as I do" bullshit.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216777247
Every Accusation is a Confession


The point is that eventually enough people not trapped in that cult have had enough.

I expanded on brooklynite's thread (I hope he gives them hell)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216852898

My post
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16853055

Replying to a Fareed Zakaria article
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16854075
thusly
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16854145

AND IN SUMMATION

My takeaway from all this is that the party has to decide what
• key issues that will unite Democrats and cause them to drop objections when "all six items are not addressed". I was pissed as hell that the John Lewis Voting Rights Act wasn't passed, but unless we win on one or two unifying issues that GOTV in droves, that stands no chance ever.

• Cultural, yes, cultural issues such as the three I previously posted (or others, heck I don't run this show) such as hypocrisy, I give a litany of examples of "do as I say, not as I do " , the big "Election Integrity" grift, because it's painfully obvious and fresh, and the use of people as cannon fodder in the fake elector and Jan 6 schemes. He sent people to the slammer, more to come. Pure betrayal.

These issues align with milder conversion therapies for addicts and cultists. Work at the edge.

"He trusted you and sent you to be beaten (oh, poor victims) and to the slammer. He didn't lead the march, he watched you go down on TV" .... I know, this works.

• Plain old Tent Revival Democratic Style. So Joe is a mild-mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper. People are unimpressed. So, can he get a team together with a point person on each key issue, with lots of energy and presence? It would demonstrate unity.
That Blues Brothers (1 and 2) music would do it for me!

[Just_Vote_Dem]

21. Yep-the clever Repugs never actually wanted this to happen

Threatening it opened up their coffers to loot. Now that it happened, they know the blowback is going to screw them big time.

[imavoter]

10. my concern is the young women are pissed and scared, but will they vote?

This is the issue.
Will this anger turn into votes?

[Whiskeytide]

12. I hope you're right, but I'm right now listening to ...

… an NPR segment about healthcare providers - women who work in clinics - having to call patients and cancel appointments. It about the impact it’s having on the women on both ends of the phone line. I’m struck by how often the patients express bewilderment or surprise that this has happened.

They simply haven’t been paying attention to this stuff. I know they’ve had distractions - I get that. And I’m not criticizing them at all. My heart is going out to them.

But it really worries me that, even with the leaked opinion last month, and all the coverage of it, people just aren’t waking up to this issue quickly enough. Even people who are directly affected (these women in this story likely would have never realized it if they weren’t, themselves, seeking abortion services in a red state. So many people just don’t follow politics in any way. They don’t know or appreciate what has happened.

[llmart]

14. +1

I just posted something similar. Young people have a tendency to believe that "it'll never come to that" or even worse "that will never happen to me" (rape with no access to the morning after pill).

[texasfiddler]

16. I told my 22 year old daughter that protesting is great,

But voting in every election is better. The Repubes that I know, vote in every election. They don’t need an inspirational candidate and they vote in lock step with the party. That is our enemy. I tell my gay 19 year old son the same thing. Vote your desire in the primary, but We must vote Dem in every election. No third party and no sitting out.

[OMGWTF]

23. Fall in love in the primary and then fall in line in the general.

[shrike3]

26. Reminds me of a speech Clinton gave in Iowa, years ago.

He said, "Republicans want to fall in line, Democrats want to fall in love. Fall in love with any of these guys." The candidates were there behind him; you had to be there, it was funny. "But when it comes down to vote (in the general), fall in line."

[GoCubsGo]

17. We're already starting to see the fractures.

And, with every new nutty law they come up with, those cracks are going to just get bigger and more numerous. What they're doing is basically jury-rigging the law at this point. At some point, the extremist bullshit laws are going to cause it all to implode on them.

[lindysalsagal]

18. I believe it's gonna cost them at the polls.

[dwayneb]

20. I will believe "people coming out ot vote in great numbers" when I see it

Even in 2020 when the whole world saw Donald Trump for what he was, the greatest threat to freedom in our history - about 40% of the electorate didn't even bother to go to the polls.

Apathy is what is destroying our democracy. And I don't see any way to change it. I don't think this abortion decision will make a significant difference in the number of voters who don't care enough about their representation to vote.

It won't be until those 40% see what it really means to lose their rights and freedoms that they will begin to wake up. But by then it will be far too late.

[Mr.Bill]

22. And yet whackos on wingnut websites

(who I don't think are a majority of the republican party) are celebrating this as if Saint Reagan has risen from the dead. They really are nuts.

[mitch96]

24. I have a feeling the Evangelical wing does not care what happens in 2022/24 elections.

They got what they wanted and screw the others in the party and what they are gonna loose.
YMMV
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[Javaman]

25. I think this might have been the repukes...

“A bridge too far” moment

[TheFarseer]

27. Dems really need to make a big deal about

Extreme Republican candidates who would ban abortion even in cases of rape or when the mother’s life is in danger. If they are against contraception in any way, go after them relentlessly. Almost no one is against contraception!

[Upthevibe]

28. fightforfreedom....

I hope with all of my heart you're right.

[Obvious85]

29. The second I heard it was overturned, I knew the midterms belonged to the DEMS

As tragic as this event is, it's going to pendulum swing back to progressives, and the decision WILL reversed/overturned/put on mute and made moot

[Obvious85]

30. The Taliban 6

Needs to be the new nickname for those 'Supreme' Judges

[MyOwnPeace]

32. TWO issues in all of this:

1. Abortion - The MAJORITY of Americans support the right to have access to it.

2. SUPREME COURT - THEY are in position to lock the country into the IDEAL that the Far Right, Federalist, ChristoNazi MINORITY want to turn our country into being.

NOTICE: the MAJORITY is NOT the WINNING group here!!!!!

[AllaN01Bear]

33. hadnt had respect much for it for a long time . remember hearing something like ,

the police dont care about you. the rich dont care about you. the supriem ct dont care about you. i have mistrusted the "justice" system for a long time .

[Snackshack]

34. How ironic would it be...

If this did destroy the party from the inside out…





I hope so. The GOP has unleashed 1 disaster after another every time they have been in charge for the last 20+ yrs. 9/11, 2wars, global financial collapse, torture, lost a city when Katrina hit, Sarah Palin. Then they let DT loose on us knowing what a disaster he was and he was an unmitigated disaster both financially and morally, 1 MILLION Americans lost their lives because of DT’s lies & incompetence & GOP not doing their job of oversight. Then GOP gave us January 6th.

[YoshidaYui]

35. They will regret the day they did this

it will not go well for them in November.

[Joinfortmill]

36. Yup. We're not going back

[Initech]

37. The Christian right wants to turn America into a totalitarian religious fascist state

And right now, they're going all in. Let's call their bluff in November and end the Christofascist Fox News agenda once and for all!

[AlexSFCA]

38. it is so stupid, to spend tax payer money on abortion investigations

asylum level insane. I can only hope that in urban jurisdictions in red state, district attorneys are not going to even bother with it.

[jgmiller]

39. I've been saying it for a while

Mitch did not want Roe overturned, he wanted that carrot sitting out there to drive single issue voters. Be careful what you wish for you might get it.

Look at his idiotic quote today, that's not a typical Mitch statement. That's him trying to figure out how he's going to get past this mess and get things back on track. The thing about almost always being successful like he's been is that nobody can be 100% perfect and when you're on a really good long run and it falters the problems tend to come in waves.

First the leak was an issue but they kind of tamped it down by saying it was just a draft, then came Uvalde. If the cops there weren't so incompetent he might have been able to make it past that but they were so he had to do damage control and let a bill pass that irritated his rabid base. Now the grand daddy of all things is a very angry large population of liberals and a group of single issue voters that no longer have an issue to vote on and might just stay away.

When I say they might stay away I don't mean the rabid base, I mean the average single issue voters.

[3Hotdogs]

41. the single issue voter still has an issue. Gay marriage. Repukes can use that to gin up the rubes.

But what'll really fuck 'em up? Griswold. Get rid of Griswold and you will have lost 1/2 of the base. As for the "mainstream" Rep. voters, they're already gonna stay home.

A small percentage of half of the human race have had abortions. But most of us in heterosexual relations depend on purchased birth control.

[airplaneman]

40. Overturning Roe is going to tear apart the country n/t.

[frogmarch]

42. A friend of mine

since we were in middle school 65 years ago told me that she'd learned from her mom that my friend's grandmother had used a wire coat hanger four different times.

Here we go again.

[czarjak]

43. Rushbo: "Draw the tent tighter, stand strong on our conservative convictions".

[Mad_Machine76]

44. In this day and age

it's going to be an enforcement nightmare. Not that it's not going to harshly affect some women more than other, but I would think they're going to have create more and more repressive enforcement mechanisms to prevent women from getting abortions and there may wind up being things that even right-wingers/libertarians simply won't accept in the name of stopping abortions. Roe may have been overturned sending us back nearly 50 years legally but the country/world is not the same as it was back then.