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I am classifying all posts that attempt to blame Democrats for this Supreme Court shitshow as "Pro-Putin Propaganda". Just stop it!
This is not President Obama's fault. It's not Hillary's fault. It's not President Biden's It's not Merick Garlands fault.
Nor is it the fault of Joe Manchin, or Kristine Sinema, or AOC, or Katie Porter, or Nancy Pelosi, or James Clyburn, or Chuck Schumer, or RGB
It's not that Dems failed to wave some magic wand, or miracle our asses to freedom.
It's not that Dems weren't fighting.
It's not that Dems weren't warning.
Hundreds of time over the past decades, Dems were fucking screaming; "THERE'S A FUCKING ICEBERG DEAD AHEAD!!"
This shit sandwich was brought to us by the Retrumplican Party!
Worse! It was brought to us by our very own friends, family members and neighbors who threw their support behind a fucking evil circus clown.
Blaming Democrats for this is like giving Superman a kryptonite neckless, and then bitching that he didn't stop the speeding freight train.
It's exactly like saying; "Democrats deserved this, or caused this because of what they were wearing".
Just_Vote_Dem
(2,802 posts)FalloutShelter
(11,849 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)Ffs, it was the people on the ground screaming and our leaders telling us to keep our powder dry.
You know what? They were fucking WRONG. Not only have we lost ground to the conservatives on policy, they threaten election officials with DEATH if they dare observe the law, chasing them away and replacing them with stooges. To the point where nobody whos being honest knows how 2024 will play out.
Im not going to waste my time going back-and-forth on this. Im full-on supporting ANY Dem who sees things as they are. Ill vote for the rest but thats all theyll get from me. The Republican Party is the ENEMY. Hoping theyll come around is the political equivalent of thinking Putin will be happy with the Peoples Republic of Luhansk.
maxrandb
(15,320 posts)Hillary Clinton "repeatedly" and "forcefully" told us what was at stake. Had enough people listened to her, this Supreme Court would be nothing but Jefferson Davis' wetdream.
Our leaders were not telling us to "keep our powder dry". Our leaders were screaming from the rooftops.
There were, however, a shit ton of "democrats" who worked their asses off to convince people that both parties are the same
Cha
(297,150 posts)betsuni
(25,464 posts)Blame Democrats is the new Both Sides.
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)but real Dems haven't been doing ANY of the alleged 'fence sitting' or 'soft messaging' that is being claimed.
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Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)Obama never had 60 votes until...late June of 2009...when Al Franken was seated and when Lynch the appointee from Massachusetts was sworn in. Remember Kennedy had a seizure and never came back to the Senate.
Just_Vote_Dem
(2,802 posts)AARGH
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)would have been hands-down better than Scott Brown. And we would have gotten a public option too. Always vote Democratic people...and quit with the falling in love BS and the need to attract your vote. The stakes are too high. And please God, vote in the f'ing midterms! None of this rant is addressed to you by the way...I agree...AARGH.
GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)She did not retire because she wanted Hillary appoint her successor. Like most of the rest of us, she did not anticipate the rat-fucking Hillary got. And, even if she did retire, there was no guaranteed Moscow Mitch was going to let through Obama's pick to replace her.
867-5309.
(1,189 posts)To assume anyone is going to win or lose an election is careless.
She was free to retire on her own goddamn terms.
867-5309.
(1,189 posts)Big picture.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,310 posts)And she gets her share of the blame for dying at an inopportune time.
Meanwhile, no blame goes to those who didn't vote for Hillary while RBG was alive.
I rest the OP's case.
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)all while uttering not word one about Mitch. Fair's fair. And 'perspective' ya' know.
And absolutely proving the OP ..
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)He would've held it up for Obama's entire term if that's what it took.
If RBG retired, the seat would've been empty.
GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)It's funny how some here don't seem to get that.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)January of 2015. We would have had another Senator and I think that Roberts would have been more conservative about destroying Row is he had another vote.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)should have safeguarded the seat by retiring in Obama's first term before the midterm...it is a damn shame. And can I say the meme about how it wouldn't have mattered if Hillary was elected is total crap....it would have mattered. And that is just a BS excuse some have adopted to assuage their guilt for not supporting her. It isn't true and it doesn't absolve such people.
And sorry no rationalization can ever change the fact that if Hillary Clinton had won Roe would be safe, a million people would not have died from Covid, immigrant babies would not have been put in cages like animals and there would have been no insurrection. Those and I am not saying you (I am sure you did vote for her) that didn't vote for her are despicable and there is no arguing with that.
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)to a large extent. Prior to current political climate and criteria, it wasn't a necessary consideration. Or at least no where near what it is today. We did after all once have a court that included people like Kennedy and O'Connor. And justices did not have to consider that their (singular) retirement - would be a critical turning point for a country of 250 years. Is it fair (in anything other than retrospect) to blame Ginsberg for not foreseeing all of that?
I'm with the OP - let's place the blame where it belongs - with Cheetolini, Mitch McConnell and the Federalist Society.
Bev54
(10,047 posts)to vote at all. Yes the dems were yelling and nobody was listening.
mcar
(42,302 posts)Thanks for this.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)lefthandedskyhook
(964 posts)We cannot relive the past. There is much work to be done. Hang in there, friend
yaesu
(8,020 posts)them that the Democratic party is the only party that supports all our rights, there is no other & also point out that many of the Dems not doing enough posts are RWers pretending to be progressive, divide & conquer.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)campaigned against Hillary...
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)iemanja
(53,031 posts)who insisted over and over again that SCOTUS wasn't a reason to vote for her. This is their court, and Trump was their president.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)I am so sick of folks blaming the Dems like they haven't seen how the repubs have operated for decades. If anything I blame the voters for not questioning and watching what was going on. They were sucked in blindly voted repub.
liberalmediaaddict
(766 posts)Tired of the media bashing us too while giving the Party Of No a pass on everything.
betsuni
(25,464 posts)This is not Blame Democrats Underground.
That Blame Democrats propaganda is targeted toward younger people. DUers are older and if you were around when something happened you know what happened and aren't fooled by dumb propaganda rewriting history so STOP IT.