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The corporations who helped overturn Roe v. Wade (Original Post) AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 OP
Other than voting, this is where our greatest power lies. But crap. Now I have to change Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #1
Well, since you asked so nicely-K & R!!!!! Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2022 #3
K AND R and YoshidaYui Jun 2022 #18
At least you have a choice Farmer-Rick Jun 2022 #27
Great provided there is a competing second internet provider in your area. Otherwise you/we are..... usaf-vet Jun 2022 #30
Where I live, towns are often split down the middle between Xfinity & AT&T for internet NullTuples Jun 2022 #32
+1, uponit7771 Jun 2022 #36
K&R Luciferous Jun 2022 #2
Unable to reply for fear of being ejected. lindysalsagal Jun 2022 #4
Why exactly? AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #5
Unable to reply for fear of being ejected. lindysalsagal Jun 2022 #6
Why would I report you? AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #8
OK, so I guess one of your posts was hidden Hav Jun 2022 #9
This Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #26
Why don't you personal message your reason? 3Hotdogs Jun 2022 #12
This is the third thread I see Hav Jun 2022 #7
I think I understand why AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #10
You posted a stupid ignorant misogynist thread attacking women who fought for abortion rights JI7 Jun 2022 #37
Stop giving Republicans a pass...they did this...let's win the midterm...sick of this kind of post Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #11
Kick liberalla Jun 2022 #13
KNR niyad Jun 2022 #14
What a distorted piece of dribble. Corporations in general have been donating to both Democrats JohnSJ Jun 2022 #15
I don't see it as drivel at all AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #16
Please. The "both sides" brain washing is a dishonesty that is Nixie Jun 2022 #17
I'm not saying that. AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #20
2016 was the crucial election to avert these disasters, but the Nixie Jun 2022 #21
Let's focus on the here and now AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #23
So pander to a few unreliable nonvoters as opposed to those who could deliver results? SouthBayDem Jun 2022 #35
Pander? No. AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #42
WE need to work our asses to flip people that claim to be politically active but claim both sides JI7 Jun 2022 #38
Votes matter AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #43
Yes, work for those who are likely to vote democratic. But not trolls that want JI7 Jun 2022 #44
We need to flip votes AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #45
+1 betsuni Jun 2022 #22
That is the same sorry excuses they used in 2000 and 2016. There has only been one party in JohnSJ Jun 2022 #24
Nobody is saying otherwise AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #25
I don't mean you, but am referring to the GenZs in a general way. There is no question they will be JohnSJ Jun 2022 #29
This is true of all young voters . They will become a significant voting block when they get older JI7 Jun 2022 #39
Yes JohnSJ Jun 2022 #40
Thanks for the info Raven123 Jun 2022 #19
The Waltons and owners of Walmart are the backbone of funding Farmer-Rick Jun 2022 #28
The overturning of Roe v. Wade was subsidized by American taxpayers. sop Jun 2022 #31
I'm surprised Yahoo is the source for the AT&T news. They're nothing more than Fox Noise Lite. ffr Jun 2022 #33
Would love to see someone ask Rachel, Joy, Alex or any other talking head from Comcast about this. jalan48 Jun 2022 #34
I'm confused by this post Cheezoholic Jun 2022 #41

Scrivener7

(50,911 posts)
1. Other than voting, this is where our greatest power lies. But crap. Now I have to change
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 07:43 AM
Jun 2022

my internet provider. But I will, and I'll call them and tell them why. And if 100,000 of us do that, they will stop the contributions.

I wish this post had more recs and kicks.

Farmer-Rick

(10,135 posts)
27. At least you have a choice
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:25 AM
Jun 2022

Here we don't have a choice. It is Comcast or nothing. Admittedly Comcast is often as good as nothing.

They have a monopoly here in rural East TN. And the GOPers like it that way.

usaf-vet

(6,161 posts)
30. Great provided there is a competing second internet provider in your area. Otherwise you/we are.....
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:11 AM
Jun 2022

.... at the mercy of no competition.

To another point, we would not have survived the Covid pandemic if we had to rely on local vendors to first provide us with N95 masks.
Then the list goes on food products that were not either avail in our local stores or the stores did not mandate masking.

We track our spending by using one credit card to pay for all purchases (we pay off the total amount each month). But as we compare our monthly and yearly food costs, there is nearly a one-for-one exchange of costs not spent locally to the cost of online shopping.

Now, as the supply lines have failed to keep up, it is even worst at the local level. The online vendors continue to fill the gap. And we can remain safe behind our N95 masks while shopping locally ONLY in stores where masking is required of the employees.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
32. Where I live, towns are often split down the middle between Xfinity & AT&T for internet
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:22 AM
Jun 2022

As in two literal monopolies, by agreement with the city leaders decades ago in return for a handful of magic beans in the form of cheap internet to City Hall and their private homes for five years. I have Comcast / Xfinity and live six houses away from the border of their coverage area; on the other side my only choice would be AT&T. Sure, at least then I'd be able to choose Sonic.net (a wonderful ISP btw) but they resell AT&T internet* so there's not much hit to the mega corp's bottom line at all.

*technically they buy bulk bandwidth from AT&T and then redistribute & service it as a local / last mile carrier.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
5. Why exactly?
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 07:54 AM
Jun 2022

I'm not understanding WHY you wouldn't support this thread.
Are you in favor of corporations being able to overturn civil rights for women because as a woman, I can officially say FUCK THAT.

lindysalsagal

(20,581 posts)
6. Unable to reply for fear of being ejected.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 07:55 AM
Jun 2022

Please don't report me. I wish I could support your thread, but I don't dare.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
9. OK, so I guess one of your posts was hidden
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:02 AM
Jun 2022

and now you throw a temper tantrum in every thread?
You can talk to the admins instead if you feel wronged.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
7. This is the third thread I see
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 07:57 AM
Jun 2022

where this poster chose this kind of message. It doesn't really make sense as it's also on issues with almost complete agreement on DU. It's a bit strange.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
10. I think I understand why
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:06 AM
Jun 2022

and it's because the poster may have a difference of opinion than most people on here and fears repercussion.
If this is indeed the case then conversation here is being censored & stifled. We should be able to discuss our differences like adults.
Just my opinion. I do understand that things can get heated and perhaps there could some sort of warning filter that pops up when someone hits "send" to warn that someone's post may be a bit "too much", sort of how Twitter does that when you send a tweet.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
37. You posted a stupid ignorant misogynist thread attacking women who fought for abortion rights
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:31 AM
Jun 2022

and now playing victim ?

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
11. Stop giving Republicans a pass...they did this...let's win the midterm...sick of this kind of post
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:06 AM
Jun 2022

that blames everyone but the true culprits...Republicans. Get out and work for the midterm. That needs to be our focus.

JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
15. What a distorted piece of dribble. Corporations in general have been donating to both Democrats
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:31 AM
Jun 2022

and republicans for decades, because they hope to curry favor with politicians crafting legislation in favor of their businesses, not because of Roe or any other issue

That is what citizens United was about.

What is sad is the apathy of so many voters, especially young people, who don’t even show up to vote, and realize their vote determines the make up of the Supreme Court, and issues like Citizens United, woman’s s rights, Civil Rights, environmental rights, etc.

Everyone knew that the SC was at stake in 2016, so when trump was elected, no one should be surprised where where we are today. What did those self-identified progressives think would happen when they voted for Jill Stein or didn’t even bother to vote.

I have said this many times, in every critical swing state in 2016, Hillary lost by less than 1% of the cote, while in those critical swing states Jill Stein received 1% of the cote





 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
16. I don't see it as drivel at all
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:46 AM
Jun 2022

Let's be honest, we're you aware that the companies listed were involved in overturning Roe v Wade? While AT&T doesn't surprise me given how they basically created OANN, the others are.

And we can blame whomever we want to but there's a lesson to be learned there & keep in mind that young voters turned out for Biden and helped put him in the White House, but the fact remains that young voters who are now the largest voting bloc and incredibly disenfranchised with both Republicans & Democrats,. Instead of criticizing them I feel we should be examining WHY they are.
We can start with how young voters are the first generation to make less than their parents due to things like student loans and lower wages. In the next decade things are going to drastically change in this country because the young generation will be the one who wields power in elected offices all across this country. You have to understand that young voters are not big on political parties and have a big apathetic POV when it comes to them. We need to begin to cater to their wants & needs as a political party as fast as possible. These are people far more concerned with actual policy than they are with political party affiliation. And they are PISSED!

As far as Jill Stein goes, I don't have much to say about that other than we should be asking what we can do to earn these people's votes in the future. Democracy is competitive. Let's kick some ass so we can flip those voters to our side!

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
17. Please. The "both sides" brain washing is a dishonesty that is
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:51 AM
Jun 2022

promoted by third party types who have done an entire generation and more a huge disservice. Reality should be enough at this point. Look at the damage done. The brain washers are the ones who need to be called out — not Democrats.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
20. I'm not saying that.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:02 AM
Jun 2022

I'm saying we need to work our asses off to flip these votes to our side.
We're going to need as much help as we can get to defeat the virus of white supremacy and fascism which has taken hold of this country. We can do it! It'll take work but I firmly believe in all my heart & soul that we will prevail!

There's a lot of anger out there right now coming from any and all directions, but I believe that better things are possible and that's what's been driving me.

Shit! That reminds me, I need to finish my ballot. We have elections here today in Colorado!

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
21. 2016 was the crucial election to avert these disasters, but the
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:09 AM
Jun 2022

brain washers thought blaming Democrats and preaching all or nothing was better. Now they have nothing.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
23. Let's focus on the here and now
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:18 AM
Jun 2022

and what we have to do to get their votes.
We have midterms coming up fast. Let's kick some ass!

SouthBayDem

(32,006 posts)
35. So pander to a few unreliable nonvoters as opposed to those who could deliver results?
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:27 AM
Jun 2022

Democrats should waste limited resources on a minority of people who cannot be counted on to show up in November rather than a larger group with a reliable voting record?

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
42. Pander? No.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:39 AM
Jun 2022

Work diligently to get the votes we need to expand SCOTUS and codify Roe v Wade.
Focus.
We need to GOTV in a massive way. Let's get to work!

JI7

(89,239 posts)
38. WE need to work our asses to flip people that claim to be politically active but claim both sides
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:36 AM
Jun 2022

are the same or democrats are worse on our side ? No, these people are ratfuckers that want democrats to lose. THey need to be called out on their bs . They are attention whore scumbags .

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
43. Votes matter
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:41 AM
Jun 2022

And we need to work our asses off right now.
If we're going to end this critical moment in our history as a country then we need to fight like hell and that means getting every single vote we can. We can do this!

JI7

(89,239 posts)
44. Yes, work for those who are likely to vote democratic. But not trolls that want
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jun 2022

Republicans to win.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
45. We need to flip votes
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:48 AM
Jun 2022

And that means bringing a lot of people in.
Women have lost their rights in this country. As a woman, I want a solid defeat of the GOP in midterms and 2024. Put that pent up energy to working to GOTV, phone bank, volunteer, anything you can do.

JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
24. That is the same sorry excuses they used in 2000 and 2016. There has only been one party in
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:18 AM
Jun 2022

the last 70 years who has consistently been for woman’s rights, Civil Rights, Social Security, Medicare, workers rights, environmental rights, etc., and that they aren’t “big on political parties”

Then they are getting just what they asked for. Reagan, bush1 and bush2, trump, and the current SC







JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
29. I don't mean you, but am referring to the GenZs in a general way. There is no question they will be
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:39 AM
Jun 2022

the most significant voting block in coming years.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
39. This is true of all young voters . They will become a significant voting block when they get older
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jun 2022

like all other generations .

Farmer-Rick

(10,135 posts)
28. The Waltons and owners of Walmart are the backbone of funding
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:38 AM
Jun 2022

For the forced birth movement. It's their baby. Their pet hate project.

They have always given the bulk of the funding that supports Christian forced birth organizations. There was a huge report about it back when Mrs.Walton, drunk as usual, ran over and killed that woman. That was years ago...... I'll try to find the investigation. But it disappeared off the Internet rather quickly, about as quickly as Mrs Waltons vehicular homicide charges.

sop

(10,100 posts)
31. The overturning of Roe v. Wade was subsidized by American taxpayers.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:15 AM
Jun 2022

The decades-long campaign of violence and terrorism to take away women's reproductive rights was conducted primarily by extremist rightwing christian congregations. Their entire operation was tax-exempt. We paid for it.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
33. I'm surprised Yahoo is the source for the AT&T news. They're nothing more than Fox Noise Lite.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:22 AM
Jun 2022

Fuck both of them! All AT&T bills, cut. All ties with Yahoo, cut!

Cheezoholic

(2,006 posts)
41. I'm confused by this post
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:46 AM
Jun 2022

The post and article insinuates that these corporations donated with the specific goal of overturning Roe. I believe that's somewhat misleading. Did these corporations, amongst many others make donations to anti-abortion politicians? Very likely. Did these corporations make those donations specifically to influence getting Roe overturned? Very unlikely. Did they make donations to abortion rights politicians? Very likely. Did they make those donations to specifically prevent Roe from being overturned? Very unlikely. Corporations will usually make political donations in order to promote their own self interest.

Corporations also tend to tread carefully into highly volatile social debates. They also tend to make donations to either side of those debates via back end donations outside of the political spectrum. I don't have time to do a detailed search but I have seen where many of those corporations listed have made substantial donations to women's rights and equal access to healthcare groups not just nationally but globally, showing support for such issues. I believe you'd be a little more hard pressed to track donations to groups whom work to suppress women's rights or equal access to healthcare, especially at the levels of the former.

And while some of the corporations listed may not have publicly come out with statements either in support or against Roe, many of those companies have publicly stated they will pay for any women employees to get the proper access they need if it is denied to them in the state they live. I would guess that shows which side of the debate your on. as states threaten these companies more and more for doing that maybe some will stop, but I doubt it.

I am absolutely in no way condoning corporate money going to these fascist politicians and I have no problem with corporations being called out for it. But the way the post was made in stating that corporations were specifically in favor of overturning Roe and sending women's rights back to the stone age I have a problem with. In the same manner you could accuse me of specifically wanting to burn down the planet because I drive a gas powered vehicle and nothing could be further from the truth. As another poster said this has been a repuke mission for the last 50 years.

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