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bluescribbler

(2,113 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:43 AM Jun 2022

How can I join the Underground Railroad?

I live in deep blue Massachusetts, where our (pro choice) Republican governor issued an executive order to protect patients and providers. Reproductive health care is safe here and our medical facilities are first-rate. I expect that women will be traveling to Mass to obtain the care they cannot get at home. I have a spare bedroom, and am willing to offer it to any woman who needs it.

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How can I join the Underground Railroad? (Original Post) bluescribbler Jun 2022 OP
There is no Underground Railroad. Donate to your local abortion fund now and call them in three WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #1
Yikes! Please don't compare what's happening to the Underground Railroad AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #2
Sorry, I understand the historical context WA-03 Democrat Jun 2022 #3
Leaders in the reproductive justice movement are not using this terminology for a variety of WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #5
Well I'm not white and AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #6
Leave it to us to eat our own... Omen78 Jun 2022 #4
Call *what* the Underground Railway? WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #7
Really? AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #8
The world is turning upside down Omen78 Jun 2022 #9
Making a difference in this moment means providing resources to organizations that have been doing WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #10
Is it possible that H2O Man Jun 2022 #12
These grassroots organizations exist. They are called abortions funds. They provide funding, WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #15
Well said! H2O Man Jun 2022 #16
These things are not semantics Blue_Adept Jun 2022 #11
Why "underground"? brooklynite Jun 2022 #13
Why "Democratic Underground"? H2O Man Jun 2022 #18
That would be a question for Skinner. brooklynite Jun 2022 #19
What do you think? H2O Man Jun 2022 #20
No clue... brooklynite Jun 2022 #21
Fair enough. H2O Man Jun 2022 #22
Traffic Stop... mackdaddy Jun 2022 #14
THANK YOU. Call planned parenthood. -or your local provider. riversedge Jun 2022 #17
I found a couple of orgs in the midwest that can use help Beaverhausen Jun 2022 #23
Reddit has a sub Demanchor Jun 2022 #24

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
1. There is no Underground Railroad. Donate to your local abortion fund now and call them in three
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:47 AM
Jun 2022

weeks, when everything has settled down, to see if there's more they need you to do.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
2. Yikes! Please don't compare what's happening to the Underground Railroad
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:56 AM
Jun 2022

I was just about to make a post about this.
Please don't compare what's happening to the Underground Railroad unless you really want to piss off Black voters with cultural misappropriation.

And I'll explain why. Well, ok, not "me" personally, but ya. You know what I mean.

Here is the thread unroll for anyone who wants to read it. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1541213072945098753.html

Here is the tweet which started the thread. Everything below it is a screencap.


?s=20&t=BOL2HDiZAMg_FVxM2TvAzg





WA-03 Democrat

(3,037 posts)
3. Sorry, I understand the historical context
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:19 AM
Jun 2022

Isn’t freedom over one’s body an issue share with both of these injustices?

Semantics over humanity?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
5. Leaders in the reproductive justice movement are not using this terminology for a variety of
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:21 AM
Jun 2022

reasons, as listed. When someone is new to a movement and interested in helping it, it's often best to follow the leaders.

 

AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
6. Well I'm not white and
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:21 AM
Jun 2022

and Black spaces aren't my place. I know my role and when Black woman speak on our history I keep my mouth shut & listen.

 

Omen78

(81 posts)
4. Leave it to us to eat our own...
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:20 AM
Jun 2022

Just call it the Underground Railway. Your heart is in the right place! If someone gets snotty about what the hell we're calling it, they're becoming a part of the problem and not the solution. JMHO

 

Omen78

(81 posts)
9. The world is turning upside down
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:40 AM
Jun 2022

and folks are stepping forward to make a difference, then on the flip side there are key board warriors that have nothing better do to than to tell us how woke they are. I'm not trying to be rude. That may be your cup of tea, but I'm worried more about action than semantics. Everyday that passes by the more I'm agreeing with Bill Mayer.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
10. Making a difference in this moment means providing resources to organizations that have been doing
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:46 AM
Jun 2022

this work for years and know the best ways to provide help, rather than being sad about not being able to use edgy terminology.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
12. Is it possible that
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:53 AM
Jun 2022

a person can support Planned Parenthood, for example, but still recognize that a teenager that has become pregnant by way of incest, and who lives in one of the many states that has criminalized abortion, can benefit from a grassroots network that assists her in getting safe passage to a state where she can legally get the medical care she needs? Or are those organizations like PP going to do that?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,307 posts)
15. These grassroots organizations exist. They are called abortions funds. They provide funding,
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:55 AM
Jun 2022

logistics and emotional support for people who are traveling or can't afford abortions. They are not secret, but they are dedicated to protecting the privacy of the people they serve. They are often paired with or serve specific clinics, both PP and independent clinics (the majority of abortions are performed by indie clinics). These things exist. They have existed for years. The network is there, and it needs support. There is no need to reinvent the wheel, or surround it in cloak-and-dagger terminology that can scare people off from trying to access it.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
16. Well said!
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jun 2022

Thank you for your solid response.

Long before the term "Underground Railroad: came into being, Mohawk leader Joseph Brant ran a program to assist human beings held in slavery escape to Canada. During the Revolutionary War, an assistant to General Washington sent him a note that described how many of the men were joining Brant's fighting forces, especially a group camped in what is my hometown. This was a factor in Washington's planning of the brutal Clinton-Sullivan Campaign.

Around the time the Civil War was brewing, a number of households along the same path as used by Brant were part of the Underground Railroad. The doctor who lived in my house -- then the father-in-law of a US Senator -- is recorded in an 1880's history book as "peddling his blue pills and abolitionist pamphlets." Although largely forgotten -- much like the Brant forces -- the local Underground Railroad here existed in and around communities where a number of black human beings were held in slavery.

Now, I like studying history. It's one of the reasons I bought this house. I have artifacts from Brant's camps, including from where the people he helped escape from slavery were located. I think it is best understood in the manner explained in Gary Nash's 1974 book, "Red, White, and Black: The Peoples od early America." Local history documents, for example, that the active opposition to holding human beings in slavery included red, white, and black people. And, as you note, there were advantages to coordination between a local activist and his son-in-law in the Senate. Yet not everyone involved locally was part of the coordination.

At risk of sounding like I am wrenching the long arm of coincidence out of socket -- for I do not believe in "coincidence" -- some of those who now reside in the former Underground Railroad stations near me, all history buffs, have contacted me since word of the upcoming Supreme Court's decision was "leaked" to say that "history is calling." They are not the only ones involved, of course. And while I have not asked, I think the ones I communicate support Planned Parenthood, and would likely include some of those employed at the local PP offices, as opposed to those who have engaged in silent and loud "vigils" outside for years.This includes good people -- and not all white -- who have noted the term "Underground Railroad" in respect of good people standing up for what is right in a country divided and engaged in an uncivil war.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
11. These things are not semantics
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jun 2022

You can take action and do it in the right way.

Language is important. It's why we don't deadname. It's why use of pronouns is important in a number of situations.

If you're going to be an ally, BE one.

brooklynite

(94,327 posts)
13. Why "underground"?
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 09:53 AM
Jun 2022

There's no legal basis to prevent anyone freely traveling to another State for any reason, despite what some RW politicians say.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
23. I found a couple of orgs in the midwest that can use help
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jun 2022
https://midwestaccesscoalition.org/

As a practical abortion fund, MAC helps people traveling to, from, and within the Midwest access a safe, legal abortion with support in the following areas: travel coordination and costs, lodging, food, medicine, and emotional support.


https://elevatedaccess.org/

Our volunteer pilots transport passengers at no cost to access the healthcare they need.
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