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Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:03 AM Jun 2022

What a strange loop Biden must find himself in today.

He had a chance to stop Clarence Thomas when he was in the Senate. He failed to provide Anita Hill the backing she needed by calling in other witnesses and here we are today.

I hope he takes this into account when he considers using the full power of his seat to try to remedy our current situation.

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What a strange loop Biden must find himself in today. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 OP
The irony was not lost on me either. nt in2herbs Jun 2022 #1
Clarence was only snowybirdie Jun 2022 #2
Joe Biden was in charge of the Anita Hill hearing. Now, he says it wasn't a fair hearing to her. Autumn Jun 2022 #5
This happened snowybirdie Jun 2022 #11
But Thomas is still wreaking havoc on the court. milestogo Jun 2022 #13
Post removed Post removed Jun 2022 #28
Karma... His behavior at that hearing was one reason I did not support JCMach1 Jun 2022 #12
Me too. Novara Jun 2022 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author JCMach1 Jun 2022 #18
I think you underestimate the team of Thomas and Thomas. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #7
I remember being glued to the TV watching every minute of it. I will never forget it. Autumn Jun 2022 #3
It was something, wasn't it. Poor Anita Hill. leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #24
So it's all Biden fault now? AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #4
Maybe David Hogg is correct. Lots of bad decisions made by many Dems. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #8
I heard it was all Susan Sarandon. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2022 #14
Blaming Biden for Thomas because of Anita Hill is like blaming Obama for Trump Ocelot II Jun 2022 #33
Support Biden instead of revisiting history with today's knowledge bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #6
Who's eroding support for Biden? Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #9
Biden posts on DU? Hav Jun 2022 #17
Never underestimate the power of public opinion. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #25
I took time off from work and watched it all on tv. DURHAM D Jun 2022 #10
I hear you. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #19
And while we are going 30 years back to find fault with Biden, let's skip any mention of Trump, Beastly Boy Jun 2022 #15
We need to skip some decades, Hav Jun 2022 #20
No one is ONLY blaming Dems. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #23
Sure, you are so focused on actions NOW Hav Jun 2022 #26
Anita Hill week? Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #29
Biden is in a position that we all wish we can find ourselves in at his age. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #21
Don't know about you, but I would never want to be in Biden's position, at any age. Beastly Boy Jun 2022 #31
Would it have changed the votes? LisaM Jun 2022 #22
I don't think views like this are really honest RAB910 Jun 2022 #27
BIDEN QUESTIONS HILL 867-5309. Jun 2022 #30
It wouldn't have changed the outcome if this case. They would have appointed JI7 Jun 2022 #32

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
2. Clarence was only
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:08 AM
Jun 2022

one of six. Blaming Biden isn't productive nor helpful. Blame Ronald Reagan or McConnell or George Bush for a weak Roberts. See how silly this rationale is?

snowybirdie

(5,225 posts)
11. This happened
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:17 AM
Jun 2022

40 years ago. I lived through it then. Do folks need to bash Biden here? Times are so very different now and people's thinking has changed dramatically. Let's focus on moving forward to correct what an awful court has wrought.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
13. But Thomas is still wreaking havoc on the court.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:20 AM
Jun 2022

Just as elections have consequences, Senate confirmations do too.

Response to snowybirdie (Reply #11)

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
12. Karma... His behavior at that hearing was one reason I did not support
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:18 AM
Jun 2022

Him for higher office until Obama picked him as VP

Response to Autumn (Reply #5)

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
7. I think you underestimate the team of Thomas and Thomas.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:13 AM
Jun 2022

Clarence got severely radicalized and the two used their positions to help the other reach a zenith of bad political ideas. No Clarence Thomas on the court, and Ginni Thomas would have been toothless.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
24. It was something, wasn't it. Poor Anita Hill.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:30 AM
Jun 2022

Nobody should ever have to go through something like that.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,010 posts)
4. So it's all Biden fault now?
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:10 AM
Jun 2022

I thought it was RBG’s. Or was it Obama’s? Curious how people here are blaming Democrats.

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
33. Blaming Biden for Thomas because of Anita Hill is like blaming Obama for Trump
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:02 AM
Jun 2022

because he needled TFG at the White House Correspondents' Dinner in 2011. I agree that Biden should have handled the matter better, but nobody but Thomas is responsible for his shitty attitude, and nobody but TFG is responsible for whatever the hell he is.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
10. I took time off from work and watched it all on tv.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:15 AM
Jun 2022

Yesterday I went to the basement and found the original VHS tapes of the hearings. Can't decide if I want to save the recordings or beat them with a hammer.

Beastly Boy

(9,326 posts)
15. And while we are going 30 years back to find fault with Biden, let's skip any mention of Trump,
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:23 AM
Jun 2022

because the mere acknowledgement of the three uber-conservative judges he appointed would blow a huge hole in the "here we are today" red herring.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
20. We need to skip some decades,
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:26 AM
Jun 2022

otherwise the "Only blame Dems" crowd would have to direct their outrage against repubs for a change.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
23. No one is ONLY blaming Dems.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:29 AM
Jun 2022

That's your take. The thing that concerns us is that Dems have to act NOW in a way that they have refused to act before. They must use the full power of their positions. It's the only way to deal with institutions that have virtual immunity from consequences in their actions. Or to fight against a party that uses all three branches of government to foment an insurrection.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
29. Anita Hill week?
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:39 AM
Jun 2022

I wasn't aware that others had posted about the Clarence Thomas hearings. But, everyone is introspect about how each one of those idiots made it through the process. So I guess it's fair game.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
21. Biden is in a position that we all wish we can find ourselves in at his age.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:26 AM
Jun 2022

He's has an opportunity to correct a past mistake. It will require him to change.

Personally, I have confidence that he can do it.

Beastly Boy

(9,326 posts)
31. Don't know about you, but I would never want to be in Biden's position, at any age.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:47 AM
Jun 2022

Being blamed for the consequences of a killer pandemic, a war in Europe, the collapse of the global supply chain regime, inflation, unprecedented global warming, to name a few things he has absolutely no control over? No thanks!

You are saying Biden should be "using the full power of his seat to try to remedy our current situation". The only full power he has to single-handedly remedy anything is to issue executive orders. All other powers are constitutionally vested in the Executive and the Judiciary branches.

What specific executive orders do you have in mind to remedy the current situation? Let's start with Thomas' presence on the Supreme Court, since that's the subject of your OP.

LisaM

(27,808 posts)
22. Would it have changed the votes?
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:28 AM
Jun 2022

I was upset during the hearings too. But Biden didn't vote for Clarence Thomas. To that extent, the hearings, while extraordinarily painful, helped.

RAB910

(3,501 posts)
27. I don't think views like this are really honest
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:38 AM
Jun 2022

I mean do you really think George H. W. Bush wouldn't have nominated someone equally as bad had this nomination been derailed????

JI7

(89,248 posts)
32. It wouldn't have changed the outcome if this case. They would have appointed
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 10:55 AM
Jun 2022

another conservative. It just comes down to supporting Democrats which didn't happen at very imporant times.

if you want to go back then go to 2000 election and the attacks on Gore and similar bs we went through in 2016. And this doesn't even include all the attacks on Obama during his time in office.

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