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Don Winslow: Dear media, Trump wanting the magnetometers removed is the lead. Not the ketchup. (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 2022 OP
Yep, go down there and kill the Democrats dalton99a Jun 2022 #1
Straight out of the Reich's playbook. ChazInAz Jun 2022 #20
He loves his cult, in part, for the way they share his delusional, inflated view of himself. Dark n Stormy Knight Jun 2022 #62
Also, I think the fact that he tried to strangle his security guy is worse than lunging at the whee yardwork Jun 2022 #40
Who said inthewind21 Jun 2022 #72
Outstanding headlines! NH Ethylene Jun 2022 #71
That's a crime right there. Kingofalldems Jun 2022 #2
And I thought it was that Pence deserved to be hanged nt intrepidity Jun 2022 #3
He wanted the people with the weapons up close to hear him incite them. mnhtnbb Jun 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #67
Seriously? inthewind21 Jun 2022 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #78
Followed closely by assaulting his Secret Service detail. dchill Jun 2022 #5
While THEY were risking THEIR lives Fritz Walter Jun 2022 #17
Help. I missed the ketchup reference? Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2022 #25
That day, he was served lunch. He threw a tantrum... dchill Jun 2022 #29
Oh ya... Like a baby in a high chair. Off topic but have to say just saw Jamie Raskin Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2022 #31
I think it's likely that charges are being considered... dchill Jun 2022 #35
That's totally valid! Yet don't think they should Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2022 #44
They're just giving everyone one more chance... dchill Jun 2022 #46
Has anyone posted about any oaths of silence? Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2022 #48
Oaths to whom? dchill Jun 2022 #49
calls were made to potential witnesses stressing the need for "loyalty" librechik Jun 2022 #74
Think I'd advise.. " can't talk about that right now" Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2022 #45
Time to send the forensic unit to the White House and check the walls! Sancho Jun 2022 #36
Evidently you don't think that should have been brought up? Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2022 #47
Correct but ketchup is a better visual misanthrope Jun 2022 #6
Didn't do a thing for me MissMillie Jun 2022 #14
Trump had a temper tantrum, one of many temper tantrums. Delmette2.0 Jun 2022 #30
exactly MissMillie Jun 2022 #32
Assaulting your own Secret Service for keeping you out of limo is. TigressDem Jun 2022 #54
I guess I still think wanting to shut down the "mags" is bigger news. MissMillie Jun 2022 #63
it also proves barbtries Jun 2022 #64
yeah, I posted that somewhere on DU this morning (n/t) MissMillie Jun 2022 #65
Trump wanted more violence and bloodshed so he could declare martial law and then suspend ... Botany Jun 2022 #7
Sure sounding more and more like it. grumpyduck Jun 2022 #10
Hey if the republicans want to run showing their support of Trump this fall let 'em. Botany Jun 2022 #11
Yep. I call it TREASON. Send Trump to guantanomo. triron Jun 2022 #26
Yes. Witness needed to state just that. Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #12
I'm SO GLAD that, for lack of a better term, "our side" decided to sit that one out. catbyte Jun 2022 #19
The counter protesters would have had their heads beaten Boomerproud Jun 2022 #22
Well glad you said that. I was having trouble trying to understand why he's so desperately wanted Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2022 #27
Yup TigressDem Jun 2022 #55
Excellent point...nt Wounded Bear Jun 2022 #8
Rt💕TY & Don Winslow! Cha Jun 2022 #9
They're not here to hurt me. CloudWatcher Jun 2022 #13
He knew: They won't hurt me. How did he know that? Why were they armed? erronis Jun 2022 #16
They can't pee unless they're armed. rubbersole Jun 2022 #34
Because he's been telling them what to do for months. yardwork Jun 2022 #41
Would anyone want to venture a theory of how the day would have gone if..... jaxexpat Jun 2022 #15
Biden would have hit him with Article 25 and been President until Obama came back to reality. nt TigressDem Jun 2022 #56
Premeditated, the conscience of a criminal mind. Russian loving Trump ffr Jun 2022 #18
"They're not going to hurt ME." NellieStarbuck Jun 2022 #21
He said Rebl2 Jun 2022 #23
And he hoped for more violence and death. Lock him up. We can't have a repeat. Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #28
Lock him up. In stocks so we can throw tomatoes and PIES at him.... his phobia!!! TigressDem Jun 2022 #57
While I like that idea a lot I'm thinking his more primal fear: shark tank. Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #79
There is SO much more important than the damned ketchup. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #24
LIKE TREASON & THAT'S LEAVENWORTH! cloudboy07 Jun 2022 #33
Yup Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #38
Or a firing squad. TigressDem Jun 2022 #58
Treason? inthewind21 Jun 2022 #75
If the Russia connection could be proved.... TigressDem Jun 2022 #80
Smoking gun? liberal N proud Jun 2022 #37
Maybe it would have been better if he HAD gone to the Capitol. kskiska Jun 2022 #39
Probably would have led to serious bloodshed. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #43
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 #42
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Jun 2022 #50
Agree Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 #51
Lede. johnp3907 Jun 2022 #52
Tastes great pecosbob Jun 2022 #60
Both spellings are correct. Link: highplainsdem Jun 2022 #61
Trump wanted to march in with his armed goons and take the Capitol with force of arms. Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #53
If he was so sure that he wasn't going to be a target catchnrelease Jun 2022 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #66
Sure we did inthewind21 Jun 2022 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #77
Denying it only encourages more of it IronLionZion Jun 2022 #68
Misdirection to hide the most damning evidence in plain sight. hay rick Jun 2022 #69
OMG, so thats what he meant!! BradBo Jun 2022 #70

ChazInAz

(2,573 posts)
20. Straight out of the Reich's playbook.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 04:31 PM
Jun 2022

He pictured himself as Hitler riding into a conquered Paris, or Lenin striding into the Duma.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
62. He loves his cult, in part, for the way they share his delusional, inflated view of himself.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 01:50 AM
Jun 2022

They have all those memes of him, for instance, shirtless with a muscle-bound, buff body or with his face replacing the face of Jesus in one of those stereotypical White Jesus paintings.



yardwork

(61,715 posts)
40. Also, I think the fact that he tried to strangle his security guy is worse than lunging at the whee
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 07:20 PM
Jun 2022

mnhtnbb

(31,409 posts)
4. He wanted the people with the weapons up close to hear him incite them.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 03:21 PM
Jun 2022

Why isn't this orange sack of $hit in jail awaiting trial?

Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #4)

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
73. Seriously?
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 03:22 PM
Jun 2022


You didn't know ALL presidents have been speaking from behind bullet proof shields since the 80's?

Response to inthewind21 (Reply #73)

dchill

(38,565 posts)
5. Followed closely by assaulting his Secret Service detail.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 03:21 PM
Jun 2022

Fuck the ketchup. It's not against the law. It's just against the wall.

Fritz Walter

(4,292 posts)
17. While THEY were risking THEIR lives
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 04:07 PM
Jun 2022

…to protect his own bloated Gluteous Maximus from AR.15-armed terrorists.

You don’t want to know what I’d do in those circumstances!

dchill

(38,565 posts)
29. That day, he was served lunch. He threw a tantrum...
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 05:18 PM
Jun 2022

...and threw his dish at the wall, getting ketchup on the wall.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
31. Oh ya... Like a baby in a high chair. Off topic but have to say just saw Jamie Raskin
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 05:43 PM
Jun 2022

being interviewed on CNN. I have to call bullshit on this and I love the guy. They asked him if committee got corroboration for the incident in the limo that Cassidy described today. He said he didn't know. Right. I wonder what would have been wrong with telling the truth. That the secret service is probably sworn to secrecy but they wouldn't deny? But I think it's an insult to our intelligence to make us believe he doesn't know

dchill

(38,565 posts)
35. I think it's likely that charges are being considered...
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 06:07 PM
Jun 2022

...and that testimony from those involved must be heard. But Raskin can't talk about it. Yet.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
44. That's totally valid! Yet don't think they should
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:04 PM
Jun 2022

Have been on TV then? The lack of transparency shown through loud and clear. To me anyway Especially Schiff. Don't get me wrong - they are great Dems that I admire to the moon and back. Just wish we'd hire a team of media savvy experts to advise. Broken record - said that since minute one of this trump travesty.

librechik

(30,677 posts)
74. calls were made to potential witnesses stressing the need for "loyalty"
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 03:25 PM
Jun 2022

and staying on the team. That is the intimidation media are talking about. We don't know who made the calls or exactly who received them yet, AFAIK

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
47. Evidently you don't think that should have been brought up?
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 08:10 PM
Jun 2022

In retrospect... Irrelevant I guess. His temper? Wingnuts probably LOVE that. However, first time I feel safe to say - he's done in running ? Or is it ruining? the country.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
54. Assaulting your own Secret Service for keeping you out of limo is.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:48 PM
Jun 2022

He wanted to be down there leading the mob so he could incite them in person.

That is why the fact that they focused on him throwing a tantrum rather than throttling his own security detail is a bit of a misdirect.

MissMillie

(38,588 posts)
63. I guess I still think wanting to shut down the "mags" is bigger news.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 03:32 AM
Jun 2022

"They're not here to hurt me."

For one thing, it shows that all the false-flag B.S. was exactly that--B.S.


Overall, though, here's the big stuff for me:

Meadows was in contact with the Willard Hotel "war room" the night before (dialing into them on 1/5 after being advised to NOT go there)... and he had told his aide that "a lot of stuff" had been PLANNED--stuff that wasn't going to be good.

And that Rudolph, after just meeting with Meadows, had also relayed that things were going to happen (implying that things had been PLANNED).

That's conspiracy.

And that both of these guys had requested pardons.

I posted yesterday that this particular information points to conspiracy and that there's only one more rung on the ladder to go. (My post got no traction, but that might be because I was doing a "Captain Obvious" impersonation.)







barbtries

(28,815 posts)
64. it also proves
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:47 AM
Jun 2022

that they knew those were their people all along and when they tried to blame it on the left it was complete bullshit.

Botany

(70,614 posts)
7. Trump wanted more violence and bloodshed so he could declare martial law and then suspend ...
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 03:25 PM
Jun 2022

... the transfer of power.

Botany

(70,614 posts)
11. Hey if the republicans want to run showing their support of Trump this fall let 'em.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 03:34 PM
Jun 2022

He is a traitor to America. End of story.

catbyte

(34,485 posts)
19. I'm SO GLAD that, for lack of a better term, "our side" decided to sit that one out.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 04:18 PM
Jun 2022

If there had been counterprotesters it would've given that thing a perfect excuse to declare martial law and suspend the Constitution.

The more these hearings go on, the more I realize just how close we came. And I thought the movies "Seven Days in May" and "The Manchurian candidate" were far-fetched. Thank God the military held firm even though it's still sketchy why it took so long for the National Guard to show up.

Boomerproud

(7,970 posts)
22. The counter protesters would have had their heads beaten
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 04:46 PM
Jun 2022

in, dragged away or worse. Instead I saw with my own eyes a LE Officer gently lead a Trumper down the Capitol steps. Where was the yellow police tape certifying a crime scene (even after more than an hour after the breach). If I'm wrong about the last point I will stand corrected.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
27. Well glad you said that. I was having trouble trying to understand why he's so desperately wanted
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 05:10 PM
Jun 2022

To go down there. First thing that came to my mind was that it actually helped him, because why would you want to go down there if he knew there was danger? Then I thought well maybe his plan was to go down there and stop the crowd in which he would have looked like an angel.

I definitely points back to his deep need to be idolized. And what you are suggesting makes sense too.

By the way, how did he know that the crowd wouldn't hurt him.

CloudWatcher

(1,851 posts)
13. They're not here to hurt me.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 03:45 PM
Jun 2022

He knew they were armed. He knew they were there to hurt someone. And he knew it wasn't him. He knew.

yardwork

(61,715 posts)
41. Because he's been telling them what to do for months.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 07:24 PM
Jun 2022

He told the Proud Boys to "stand down and stand by" months earlier. Then he told them to show up on January 6. And he had go-betweens like Roger Stone providing details.

jaxexpat

(6,862 posts)
15. Would anyone want to venture a theory of how the day would have gone if.....
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 03:53 PM
Jun 2022

Obama had called for the removal of the mags so his crowd could be armed. Had assaulted his SS attachment as they drove him to the White House. Thrown his plate into the wall of the oval office.

ffr

(22,674 posts)
18. Premeditated, the conscience of a criminal mind. Russian loving Trump
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 04:11 PM
Jun 2022

and his Russian loving cronies.

Rebl2

(13,575 posts)
23. He said
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 04:54 PM
Jun 2022

take away the mags because he knew they would storm the place and kill members of Congress and Pence. He did not care.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
57. Lock him up. In stocks so we can throw tomatoes and PIES at him.... his phobia!!!
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:51 PM
Jun 2022

Then to the guillotine?

Let's be FRENCH for a day, nez pas?


TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
58. Or a firing squad.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:53 PM
Jun 2022

Hey, tRump, we're giving you a 21 gun salute.

Oh how nice.

Wait, why are you blind folding me?

So you can hear better.


TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
80. If the Russia connection could be proved....
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 02:54 AM
Jun 2022
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter115&edition=prelim

§2381. Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


CREATING THE WHOLE MAGA GROUP and aiming them at Mike Pence....


§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

kskiska

(27,048 posts)
39. Maybe it would have been better if he HAD gone to the Capitol.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 06:52 PM
Jun 2022

That would have absolutely sealed his fate.

maxsolomon

(33,432 posts)
43. Probably would have led to serious bloodshed.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 07:27 PM
Jun 2022

As it was the mob didn't use their guns, which we now know they had.

Ford_Prefect

(7,925 posts)
53. Trump wanted to march in with his armed goons and take the Capitol with force of arms.
Tue Jun 28, 2022, 11:42 PM
Jun 2022

It would have been his big Al Capone moment.

He knew in advance they would be armed. It had been planned that way for weeks by whoever was steering it inside the White House and the War room. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers made their plans at least a month or more prior to the 6th. I have no doubt whatever that whoever the conduit was between Trump and armed militia knew in advance and told Trump about it.

catchnrelease

(1,946 posts)
59. If he was so sure that he wasn't going to be a target
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 12:16 AM
Jun 2022

Then he knew that the crowds were NOT in fact antifa or BLM etc. Those were all HIS people.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Response to inthewind21 (Reply #76)

IronLionZion

(45,563 posts)
68. Denying it only encourages more of it
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:56 AM
Jun 2022

The next authoritarian would be dictator of America may not be as incompetent

hay rick

(7,648 posts)
69. Misdirection to hide the most damning evidence in plain sight.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 09:42 AM
Jun 2022

The media always is ready to keep the door open to serving future authoritarians.

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