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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Coup Co-Conspirators, PB's and OK, with the Weapons EXPECTED Trump to be There
He would give further orders to them, live. They expected that. Thats why Trump was so desperate to be there. If he didnt personally give the orders, directly, he knew they would not follow through. He knew that. Thats why he went crazy, grabbed the wheel, attacked the SS. If he was there, it would have been a blood bath. The reinforcement would have been mobilized etc. the weapon caches brought in, but he wasnt there to personally do it, so it failed. They were waiting on his orders and were told he would be there personally to deliver them.
Ocelot II
(115,659 posts)He had to enter the Capitol, stand at the lectern and announce triumphantly that he had "stopped the steal" and was still the president.
bucolic_frolic
(43,115 posts)Remember that? I think it was in re: a mass shooter in the southeast US, early in his administration.
Novara
(5,838 posts)It's also possible he was living some glory movie fantasy a la Braveheart.
ProfessorGAC
(64,968 posts)I think he just wanted to go there and revel in the violence being committed in his name.
Beetwasher.
(2,970 posts)Waiting on orders. From whom do you think they were waiting? And why did they never receive them? It didnt need to be Trumps idea, but he definitely had it in his head that he desperately needed to be there. Desperate enough to grab the wheel and attack an SS officer. Those are desperate acts. A desperate man who knew his cult would not carry out the final stage of the plan unless he personally ordered it. And he promised them at the ellipse that he would do so. The subtext is there.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)to his twitter feed, waiting for instructions.
wiggs
(7,811 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,968 posts)I don't doubt the story told, i just don't believe that he maintained focus to continue with a plan.
Was there a plan? Obviously yes. I do believe the weapons and staging of shooters was factual.
Was TFG capable of carrying out his part? Very doubtful.
Beetwasher.
(2,970 posts)Riled up into a bloodthirsty rage, which he achieved. And at the capital he would have been more than capable of giving his coded mobspeak orders to unleash the reserves. I agree he didnt plan anything, but he has low cunning and knows mobspeak and would have known exactly what he was doing and would have done it if given the chance. Id bet a dollar this was the plan. What other explanation for the dog that didnt bark? The had all those weapons. They were waiting for orders that never came. Why??? The dog didnt bark because Trump never made it to the capital steps to personally give the order, as was probably promised.
The militants balked because the plan started to go awry when Trump didnt show as planned. A panicked Trump tried to use tweets instead but at that point the coconspirators would also be panicked because things were going awry.
Its my theory anyway.
mackdaddy
(1,523 posts)He said that tRump would go into the chambers and "be very strong" and take over the proceedings.
And not only were there the weapons caches, we now have concrete evidence that there were AR-15s, Pistols and flagpoles with spear points attached IN THE CROWDS.
And Trump knew these weapons were there because he tried to order the magnetometers turned off as they kept finding the weapons there and the others would not come in close for his photo ops as the insurrectionist would loose their weapons.
Ghoolie and trump had an entire strategy planned out once he got to the capitol with his brown shirts.
ProfessorGAC
(64,968 posts)TFG is a buffoon. There was a coordinated plan but TFG was winging it and wanted to go play banana republican.
I simply don't believe he was capable of executing on a plan. There is zero historical evidence that he was a strategist or could stick to a well coordinated plan.
In fact, the "don't let him go" from some quarters may have been to prevent him from f'ing up the plan.
3Hotdogs
(12,364 posts)them?
"OK. You two over there. You go to the right side of the building over there. Steve, what's it called? Oh, The Capital.
You five. Go see if that door is open. If it is, see if you can fine Pence. He's the one with the white hair. Take him back to me.
The rest of yiz. You just think of somethin to do."
Beetwasher.
(2,970 posts)There weapons caches, and Trump would speak in code now we must do something strong to show blah blah.