Just to rattle TFG's cage ...

[NanceGreggs]

... I'd love for the WH housekeeping manager to send Trump a bill for one broken plate and the cleaning supplies used to remove ketchup stains off the dining room wall.

Imagine Trump's reaction when, in the midst of all the legal and political shit he's facing, he gets an invoice saying:

"Unless we receive a certified check in the amount of $28.47 within thirty (30) business days, we will have no choice but to forward your unpaid account to our collections agency, at which time interest and other penalties may be added to the outstanding amount."

Being petty isn't the best revenge - but in certain circumstances, it can be oh-so-entertaining revenge.

[hlthe2b]

1. That plate alone had to be worth much more than that.

[NanceGreggs]

2. Probably - but not the point. n/t

[hlthe2b]

5. It may well BE the point. Destroying Federal property is a FELONY if value exceeds $100

1666. Destruction Of Government Property -- 18 U.S.C. § 1361

Section 1361 protects "any property" of the United States or an agency or department thereof, or any property being manufactured or constructed for the United States or an agency or department thereof, from willful depredation or attempted depredation. "Depredation" has been characterized as the act of plundering, robbing, pillaging or laying waste. United States v. Jenkins, 554 F.2d 783, 786 (6th Cir. 1977); cf. Deal v. United States, 274 U.S. 277, 283 (1927) ("depredation" defined in context of postal statute). This section prohibits actual physical damage or destruction of both real and personal property, but mere adverse possession of that property without physical harm is insufficient to violate the law. United States v. Jenkins, supra, 554 F.2d at 785. Section 1361 is a specific intent crime, see United States v. Jones, 607 F.2d 269, 273-74 (9th Cir. 1979), cert. denied, 444 U.S. 1085 (1980), and the government must prove that the defendant acted willfully; that is intentionally, with knowledge that he/she is violating a law. United States v. Simpson, 460 F.2d 515, 518 (9th Cir. 1972); United States v. Moylan, 417 F.2d 1002, 1004 (4th Cir. 1969), cert. denied, 397 U.S. 910 (1970). The government is not required to prove that defendant knew the property belonged to the government, because government ownership is "merely a 'jurisdictional fact'." United States v. LaPorta, 46 F.3d 152, 158 (2d Cir. 1994), quoting United States v. Feola, 420 U.S. 671 (1975). In fact, title or possession by the United States is not a necessary element of this offense, if the property in question was being made for the United States. The government must present evidence establishing value of damage. United States v. Seaman, 18 F.3d 649, 651 (9th Cir. 1994). The penalties for violations of this section are tied to the extent of the property damage. As amended on September 13, 1994, if the damage exceeds $100, the defendant is subject to a fine of up to $250,000, ten years imprisonment, or both. See Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, Pub. L. 103-322, § 330016, 108 Stat. 1796, 2146-47 (1994). When property damage does not exceed $100, the offense is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up to $100,000, one year imprisonment, or both. See 18 U.S.C. §§ 3559(a), 3571.

[NanceGreggs]

6. Somehow ...

... I don't see that as an issue that anyone is going to pursue.

[hlthe2b]

7. Of course not when we ignore it too.

Is there any surprise that Trump continues to get by with his crimes when we make excuses for him and downplay his actions?

[NanceGreggs]

11. Yes, by all means ...

... let's make total fools of ourselves by indicting Trump for dinnerware abuse.

[hlthe2b]

32. Stop being reductive. Making excuses for the criminality of Trump has brought us to today.

I will not defend a fascist liar and you shouldn't either. Doing so doesn't make ME look foolish.

[Duppers]

14. Absolutely!

WhiteHouse fine china:

The set was manufactured by Pickard China at a cost of about $367,258.
The White House Historical Association, a private foundation established by First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy to purchase furniture and decorative and fine arts for the Executive Residence, provided the funds for the purchase.

White House china - Wikipedia

[Rabrrrrrr]

28. Holy smokes! What year were they purchased, and how many settings does near $400K get one?

That's some pricey China! Holy shit.

[whopis01]

41. If that's what the White House paid for China imagine what China paid for McConnell n/t

[agingdem]

3. we paid for those damn plates..

I'm thinking class action lawsuit..

[ariadne0614]

4. +1 n/t

[NanceGreggs]

13. Great idea!

Let's all pitch-in and pay for a lawyer to file a lawsuit that will cost tens of thousands of dollars to pursue!

Maybe we can get Sidney Powell to represent us, given her expertise in filing frivolous lawsuits that get laughed out of court.

[agingdem]

16. ok, then, let's do it

you get Sidney Powell on board..you may want to give Lin Woods a shout... and I'll handle the 309.5 million e-mail blast..could be more now that the six assholes on the court deemed zygotes viable human beings..

[NanceGreggs]

18. Can't wait for her opening statement at trial.

"Your Honour, as has already been established by my own lawyers, no one with a reasonable mind would ever take anything I say seriously."

[agingdem]

19. and she added "I rest my case"...

[NanceGreggs]

22. ...

[gab13by13]

8. The revenge that is really happening,

is the revenge of Liz Cheney. When Trump took on Liz he unleashed the Kraken.

Meanwhile, Fani Willis is gathering evidence for her special grand jury.

[calimary]

9. Hey! There's nothing wrong with oh-so-entertaining revenge!

[Emile]

10. Remember when Republicans screamed that the Clinton's vandalized the White House?

It was all a big lie. Waiting for Republican outrage over Trump vandalism.

[NanceGreggs]

17. Who can forget ...

... the "'W'-keys Massacre" that almost brought our country to its knees - or was it the Bowling Green Massacre?

I always confuse the two.

[secondwind]

12. He broke porcelain china... He destroyed so much..............

[gab13by13]

15. It seems so wrong,

using porcelain china for 2 Big Macs, paper plates don't break.

[NanceGreggs]

20. Just out of curiosity ...

... was a porcelain sippy-cup ever added to the official WH dinnerware service?

Just wonderin'.

[pazzyanne]

34. ...

[TheRickles]

21. Here's a picture of what his place setting might have looked like.

This is a photo of Obama's place setting, so there's no ketchup or Big Macs in sight, but it's a pretty fancy piece of porcelain (from an earlier DU post): https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216865826

[MyOwnPeace]

23. I think we're 'off-base'.............

I'm betting it was really a Big Mac box and an opened tube of catchup for the fries!

[mopinko]

24. they keep good records of all that stuff. charge him for ALLLLLL the crockery.

[Marcuse]

25. Another Presidential Trantrum.

[rubbersole]

26. Not to drag the thread into the gutter, but....

Send him an invoice from the White House laundry- "Skid mark removal - daily". OK, that was unnecessary....

[FailureToCommunicate]

27. As a taxpayer, I would happily pay for new - and less fragile- dinnerware for him...

[Traildogbob]

29. 😂😂😂😂

[Emile]

30. +1 Lock Him Up!

[FailureToCommunicate]

35. ...

[Emile]

36. OMG. LOL

[Totally Tunsie]

39. I hear they have matching

toilets! Chump does love his throne...

[FailureToCommunicate]

40. Nice punchbowl! He'll love it!

Wonder if they offer a matching bidet?

[Texin]

31. "...for one broken plate..."

Hutchinson spoke of numerous such occurrences throughout her tenure.

[YoshidaYui]

33. Anything to make 45 uncomfortable

Is fine me! Poke the pig allyou want, He is not a king or a dictator any longer. He got forced retirement. Maybe he should have his social security go to struggling Seniors! He won’t need it in prison!

[Bayard]

37. Add in the cost of repairing the Presidential Plumbing

After he tried to flush down documents.

[dsharp88]

38. I truly doubt that was his first destroyed plate

His infantile tantrums likely resulted in shattered dishes and ketchup-stained walls on many occasions.

[demtenjeep]

42. it seems he isn't the only dotard baby that throws tantrums. Seems his youngest is that way

n a later tweet, which has also since been deleted, O'Day alleges she has texts from Donald Jr. complaining about the youngest sibling, Baron.

"and while we are at it.. I have texts of don jr telling me what a little s*** a****** barron is." O'Day said. "That they were on the private jet and barron didn't like his food so he threw the plate across the plane at the attendant. NONE of these people are INNOCENT of being a******* & liars!"




https://www.newsweek.com/aubrey-o-day-donald-trump-jr-ivanka-eric-trump-tweets-1541628