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NBC is pushing the opinion that it's a mistake for Sweden and Finland to join NATO. (Original Post) tavernier Jun 2022 OP
Whatever ...... Lovie777 Jun 2022 #1
"By Lt. Col. Daniel L. Davis, U.S. Army, retired" maxsolomon Jun 2022 #34
Ok. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #42
I'm watching Morning Joe on MSNBC. Earth-shine Jun 2022 #2
Me too and it felt like finally some good news. tavernier Jun 2022 #7
The MSM is owned and managed by domestic oligarchs. gab13by13 Jun 2022 #3
What powerful "oligarchs" to have no influence or role in policy mathematic Jun 2022 #39
It's an opinion piece and clearly identified as such Kaleva Jun 2022 #4
I know it was an opinion piece tavernier Jun 2022 #6
Free speech means seeing things published that we disagree with Amishman Jun 2022 #27
OK. I tried Google and Urban Dictionary. What's LBN? nt LAS14 Jun 2022 #22
Latest Breaking News forum here on DU. tavernier Jun 2022 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Kaleva Jun 2022 #26
All of NBC, or just one of their guests? GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #5
It's an opinion piece, and you know what they say about opinions. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #8
Victor? vanlassie Jun 2022 #9
? Ocelot II Jun 2022 #23
The person who wrote that is a clown VMA131Marine Jun 2022 #10
Finland would disagree, I think. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #11
Finland lost 10% of its territory and had to pay reparations to the USSR Jose Garcia Jun 2022 #32
He's been on Fox News a lot. No surprise. JoanofArgh Jun 2022 #16
Huh? Mike Nelson Jun 2022 #12
NBC and MSNBC are lost to us now. ananda Jun 2022 #13
Publishing ONE opinion piece is not "pushing an opinion". brooklynite Jun 2022 #14
I believe that they enjoy stirring the pot. tavernier Jun 2022 #17
Only a handful of people know Sweden and Finland are applying to NATO brooklynite Jun 2022 #28
Well I would beg to disagree. tavernier Jun 2022 #29
And they're going to be agitated because ONE network posted ONE op-ed... brooklynite Jun 2022 #30
I totally agree. nt LAS14 Jun 2022 #21
I googled this guy. He co-authored a piece with Tulsi Gabbard and has JoanofArgh Jun 2022 #15
He works for... OneBlueDotS-Carolina Jun 2022 #18
Thanks for the info. JoanofArgh Jun 2022 #19
Thanks guys. tavernier Jun 2022 #24
NBC's not pushing it. They're hosting different opinions. I think that's good. nt LAS14 Jun 2022 #20
Good for you. tavernier Jun 2022 #31
Good for all of us to have a MSM that has as a value reporting all sides. Not both-and-ism... LAS14 Jun 2022 #43
Not just anyone's opinion ornotna Jun 2022 #33
Of course tavernier Jun 2022 #35
I think Sweden and Finland know better than some pro Putin jackass that writes an oped Takket Jun 2022 #36
Oh sure. "PPPP" moondust Jun 2022 #37
So only opinions that match your have any place in the media? ripcord Jun 2022 #38
No, but I'd like them to match the truth. tavernier Jun 2022 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #41

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,325 posts)
42. Ok.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 11:38 AM
Jun 2022

And this retired USMC MGySgt says accepting these 2 Nordic countries into the alliance is the right thing to do.
Hell, my opinion is just as valid as his.

I agree, publishing is not pushing, but it can begin to be pushing if he keeps on writing negative opinions on this topic.

Earth-shine

(3,971 posts)
2. I'm watching Morning Joe on MSNBC.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:45 AM
Jun 2022

They just had a retired general on screen speaking in detail about how great this will be, with Joe Scar agreeing.

He spoke about the modern militaries of Sweeden and Finland, and their strategic positions in relation to the arctic and Russia.

They are all for it.

mathematic

(1,434 posts)
39. What powerful "oligarchs" to have no influence or role in policy
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 11:24 AM
Jun 2022

Finland and Sweden will be overwhelmingly approved for NATO by the Senate. If you're saying American "oligarchs" are opposed to that then rejoice! the oligarchy has fallen and democracy has once again taken hold in America.

Kaleva

(36,291 posts)
4. It's an opinion piece and clearly identified as such
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:48 AM
Jun 2022

If you tried to post that in LBN , it'd get locked fast

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
27. Free speech means seeing things published that we disagree with
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:24 AM
Jun 2022

at least it was clearly labeled as an opinion piece and not framed as unbiased or factual.

Response to LAS14 (Reply #22)

Ocelot II

(115,656 posts)
8. It's an opinion piece, and you know what they say about opinions.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:13 AM
Jun 2022

Davis appears on Fox and has co-authored with Tulsi Gabbard, so you know where he’s coming from.

VMA131Marine

(4,136 posts)
10. The person who wrote that is a clown
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:18 AM
Jun 2022

“Up to now, if a war ever broke out between NATO and Russia, both Finland and Sweden would have been protected by their neutral status.”

Sure! Ask Belgium and the Netherlands how their neutral status worked out in WWII. Switzerland only escaped because their banking system helped enable the Nazi regime.

brooklynite

(94,461 posts)
14. Publishing ONE opinion piece is not "pushing an opinion".
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:47 AM
Jun 2022

Do you seriously believe that NBC has a corporate position on who should be in NATO?

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
17. I believe that they enjoy stirring the pot.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 09:01 AM
Jun 2022

They employ Rachel Maddow, but they also employ Andrea Mitchell.

brooklynite

(94,461 posts)
28. Only a handful of people know Sweden and Finland are applying to NATO
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:42 AM
Jun 2022

...and fewer care. The only nation that generates buzz is Ukraine.

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
29. Well I would beg to disagree.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:51 AM
Jun 2022

This decision is a tremendous sigh of relief to the Baltic nations, and there are a great deal of people who are United States citizens whose ancestry is from Latvia Lithuania and Estonia. Many are still first generation from World War II, and their children and grandchildren retain their traditions and vigorously support their ancestry; Many many more than a handful of people who don’t really care.

brooklynite

(94,461 posts)
30. And they're going to be agitated because ONE network posted ONE op-ed...
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jun 2022

...that questioned whether Sweden or Finland should join?

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
15. I googled this guy. He co-authored a piece with Tulsi Gabbard and has
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:54 AM
Jun 2022

been on Fox News a lot. Particularly the Jesse Watters Show. Why NBC would publish an opinion piece from this right wing hack, I don't know.

OneBlueDotS-Carolina

(1,384 posts)
18. He works for...
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 09:05 AM
Jun 2022

Defense Priorities, which is....

Allies of Rand Paul, Koch take aim at hawks

Sen. Rand Paul‘s vision of a less militaristic foreign policy got little traction in the GOP primaries, but some of his key backers are joining forces with associates of billionaire Charles Koch in a fresh effort to steer Washington away from interventions in overseas wars.

They’re launching a think tank, the Defense Priorities Foundation, that seeks to elevate national security policies that are decidedly out of the mainstream of Republican — and even some Democratic — foreign policy thinking, featuring a significantly greater reluctance to assert military force or even impose sanctions on nations such as North Korea. The related Defense Priorities Initiative, meanwhile, is designed as the organization’s advocacy arm, which will seek to lobby Congress.

Among the architects of the nonprofit are William Ruger, a Navy Reserve officer who is the vice president for research and policy at the Charles Koch Institute. The institute is backed by the billionaire businessman and donor, who along with his brother David has poured millions into conservative political causes that champion lower taxes and lighter regulations.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/rand-paul-charles-koch-think-tank-224099

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
24. Thanks guys.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 09:17 AM
Jun 2022

Early this morning when I googled Finland Sweden NATO, that was the first article that came up, so apparently NBC did feel it was relevant.

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
31. Good for you.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jun 2022

I prefer to value and and praise every positive development that allows NATO to defend Europe from Putin.

LAS14

(13,777 posts)
43. Good for all of us to have a MSM that has as a value reporting all sides. Not both-and-ism...
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 06:16 PM
Jun 2022

... but not keeping us in an echo-chamber like NewsMax.

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
35. Of course
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 11:13 AM
Jun 2022

And they try to devalue the progress that Biden and the European leaders have been struggling for months to achieve and maintain. The fact that there are people here in DU who try to poo-poo us for calling it out just makes me wonder.

moondust

(19,966 posts)
37. Oh sure. "PPPP"
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 11:19 AM
Jun 2022

"Pander to Putin's Pretentious Paranoia"

Pooty knows he will not be able to subsume NATO countries like he's trying to do to Ukraine for his "rebuild the Russian Empire" vanity project.

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