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lowkell

(671 posts)
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:52 AM Jun 2022

Far-Right VA Lt. Gov. Says "the mother is not having a lizard"; the fetus' blood is "not her blood"

https://bluevirginia.us/2022/06/video-on-abortion-virginia-lg-winsome-sears-the-mother-is-not-having-a-lizard-shes-having-a-human-being-and-the-blood-running-through-the-veins-of-the-baby-dont-sic-belong-to-her-its

“Why are we having these many abortions? Let’s come back to we’re talking about two lives, not just one, because the mother is not having a lizard, she’s having a human being who’s half part of her. And the baby has its own body and the blood that is running through the baby isn’t even her blood, so there’s two separate bodies.” – Winsome Sears

“The abortuaries [sic] sell baby parts….barbarism…The baby isn’t even her body, she’s got her own body. The blood running through the veins of the baby don’t [sic] belong to her, it’s not her blood.” – Winsome Sears
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Far-Right VA Lt. Gov. Says "the mother is not having a lizard"; the fetus' blood is "not her blood" (Original Post) lowkell Jun 2022 OP
He should have to go to middle school biology class for dummies. vanlassie Jun 2022 #1
SHE needs a remedial biology class. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #2
Oh good God. She should be sent to third grade. vanlassie Jun 2022 #6
Even Worse 4Q2u2 Jun 2022 #3
You're right atreides1 Jun 2022 #7
She obamanut2012 Jun 2022 #4
Or read ONE book on pregnancy and how it works Bettie Jun 2022 #12
RWers woke in action . . . . . Lovie777 Jun 2022 #5
Another biology major from Liberty University Freddie Jun 2022 #8
So close to Qanon Thtwudbeme Jun 2022 #9
🦇💩🤪❗️ Floyd R. Turbo Jun 2022 #10
So a pregnant woman is possessed! 2naSalit Jun 2022 #11
Screw science and biology PXR-5 Jun 2022 #13
*Technically*, she is partly correct -- but irrelevant. eppur_se_muova Jun 2022 #14
Get the net. BlueIdaho Jun 2022 #15

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
2. SHE needs a remedial biology class.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:00 AM
Jun 2022

Which makes it even worse. She doesn't even know how her own fucking body works.

Winsome Sears is Exhibit A of why people need to get off their asses and vote in every goddamn election, and not just ones involving electing the President. This is what you get when you stay home.

atreides1

(16,067 posts)
7. You're right
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:04 AM
Jun 2022

Of course she only crawls out when Youngkin needs her to...other then that, she doesn't do much else!!!

Freddie

(9,257 posts)
8. Another biology major from Liberty University
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:14 AM
Jun 2022

I’ve asked those assholes who say “it’s not your body”, then how come a woman can die in childbirth? No answer of course.

PXR-5

(522 posts)
13. Screw science and biology
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 09:09 AM
Jun 2022

let's use the bible instead;

"Live begins with the first breath"

There, that should make their two lizard brain cells spin.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
14. *Technically*, she is partly correct -- but irrelevant.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:59 AM
Jun 2022

Whether there are two separate circulatory systems or not, has no bearing on the mother's right to life, health, and bodily autonomy. It is simply a practical detail that things happen to be done that way.

Everything that keeps the fetus alive -- oxygen, nutrients, removal of CO2 and other waste products -- is transferred through the placenta, which exchanges solutes between the two fluids. So everything is dependent on the mother's body. Not a strong argument for assigning some form of independence to the fetus.

I notice she is trying to argue simultaneously that the fetus is "half part of her" (something like 99.99+% of the fetal mass, including blood, comes nutrients provided by the mother, the father's contribution is miniscule) AND that the fetus has a separate existence, "isn't even her body" (except when it's half part of her ??). One should not expect consistency in arguments that are, in reality, based on gibbering mystical superstitution.



The placenta is a unique vascular organ that receives blood supplies from both the maternal and the fetal systems and thus has two separate circulatory systems for blood: (1) the maternal-placental (uteroplacental) blood circulation, and (2) the fetal-placental (fetoplacental) blood circulation. The uteroplacental circulation starts with the maternal blood flow into the intervillous space through decidual spiral arteries. Exchange of oxygen and nutrients take place as the maternal blood flows around terminal villi in the intervillous space. The in-flowing maternal arterial blood pushes deoxygenated blood into the endometrial and then uterine veins back to the maternal circulation. The fetal-placental circulation allows the umbilical arteries to carry deoxygenated and nutrient-depleted fetal blood from the fetus to the villous core fetal vessels. After the exchange of oxygen and nutrients, the umbilical vein carries fresh oxygenated and nutrient-rich blood circulating back to the fetal systemic circulation. At term, maternal blood flow to the placenta is approximately 600–700 ml/minute. It is estimated that the surface area of syncytiotrophoblasts is approximately 12m2 [1] and the length of fetal capillaries of a fully developed placenta is approximately 320 kilometers at term [2,3]. The functional unit of maternal-fetal exchange of oxygen and nutrients occur in the terminal villi. No intermingling of maternal and fetal blood occurs in the placenta. Figure 2.1 illustrates (1) the relationship of the uterus, placenta, and the fetus, and (2) the directions of blood flow from mother to the placenta as well as fetal blood flow from the placenta to the fetus.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53254/
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