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edhopper

(33,559 posts)
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:16 AM Jun 2022

Did he reach for the steering wheel, or grab it?

did he put his had toward Engle or go for his neck?
Who the fuck cares?
The minutia of what happened is meaningless, Hutchinson relayed what she was told, and if the details are a little different, the over all point is Trump tried to go against his SS and go to the Capitol to stop the certification. He in essence, wanted to Storm the Capital building with the armed mob.

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Did he reach for the steering wheel, or grab it? (Original Post) edhopper Jun 2022 OP
Bingo. He sought to overturn the election. His failure isn't the issue Raven123 Jun 2022 #1
She said there were a group of guys standing around saying, you hear what happened in the beast Walleye Jun 2022 #2
It was the Suburban, not the Beast.... madaboutharry Jun 2022 #4
Yes they were calling it the beast. Like any plane the pres is on can be Air Force One Walleye Jun 2022 #7
Correct. H2O Man Jun 2022 #18
I'm trying to picture what he imagined he would've done when he got to the Capitol Walleye Jun 2022 #3
I think he wanted to walk into the House chamber madaboutharry Jun 2022 #10
I think he visualized just that.He can always come in and tell us under oath Walleye Jun 2022 #13
Right. H2O Man Jun 2022 #19
Orange Augustus eShirl Jun 2022 #15
😁 Walleye Jun 2022 #16
He probably thought his presence edhopper Jun 2022 #21
Exactly. Experts are discussing which criminal charges they hadn't Hortensis Jun 2022 #5
He seriously thought he could do anything he wanted because he was the fucking president Walleye Jun 2022 #17
Key points. H2O Man Jun 2022 #20
Something happened or they wouldn't Emile Jun 2022 #6
👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 onecaliberal Jun 2022 #9
Very True! BlueIdaho Jun 2022 #8
Exactly inthewind21 Jun 2022 #11
He doesn't have hands big enough to strangle anyone. Hotler Jun 2022 #12
im sure the SS is mad that someone talked out of class and making them deny everything samnsara Jun 2022 #14

Walleye

(31,005 posts)
7. Yes they were calling it the beast. Like any plane the pres is on can be Air Force One
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:24 AM
Jun 2022

We did see the video and anybody with common sense knows it was a suburban and can see him sitting in the car within reach of the driver. So all this crap is just crap of course from the other side

Walleye

(31,005 posts)
3. I'm trying to picture what he imagined he would've done when he got to the Capitol
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:20 AM
Jun 2022

I think he had fantasies of being carried in on the shoulders taken up to the speakers chair and anointed president for life. Something like that

madaboutharry

(40,203 posts)
10. I think he wanted to walk into the House chamber
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:26 AM
Jun 2022

with a strut somewhere between Mussolini and John Gotti and declare himself president for life.

edhopper

(33,559 posts)
21. He probably thought his presence
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:38 AM
Jun 2022

could get the mob into the House Chamber, thereby stopping the certification.
He didn't care if it was a mob storming the Capitol or the death of Mike Pence, his goal was to stop Congress.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Exactly. Experts are discussing which criminal charges they hadn't
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:23 AM
Jun 2022

yet seen evidence for may be brought as a result of what's being revealed by the committee, including seditious conspiracy.

Trump's lawyer warned that going to the Capitol as tRump intended would involve them in many crimes, and others also did their best to dissuade him, but tRump intended and tried to go to the Capitol anyway.

Btw, we now know tRump wasn't lying to the MAGAs and DVEs who answered his call to gather on Jan 6 when he told them that he would be at the Capitol too, with them.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
8. Very True!
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 10:24 AM
Jun 2022

He saw himself at the head of an angry armed mob, installing himself in the House Chamber, and declaring himself President for Life. Everything else is a distraction.

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