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Cassidy Hutchinson's lawyers release new statement. (Original Post) madaboutharry Jun 2022 OP
Trump and his magats besmirch her at their peril C_U_L8R Jun 2022 #1
What peril? TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #2
Someday, there may be trials C_U_L8R Jun 2022 #5
The problem is AnnetteChaffee Jun 2022 #27
It's not about Republican voters. Elessar Zappa Jun 2022 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #37
Well, let's hope that holds or gets larger.... TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #38
COOLER HEADS WILL PREVAIL... homegirl Jun 2022 #29
Why didn't ABC confirm with the Hutchinson before putting out that story? JohnSJ Jun 2022 #3
Ratings . . ... Lovie777 Jun 2022 #4
ABC does not care about the truth, only the ratings and the click-bait headlines. Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #6
I thought it was NBC that published it first????? NT LAS14 Jun 2022 #8
You might be right, but it was one of the major broadcasters, though I am pretty sure it wasn't CBS JohnSJ Jun 2022 #18
ABC is so rightwing these days. I could get it for free but deleted it as it is just GOP shit. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #12
Miss Hutchinson's case is an opportunity to holster our cynicism weapons. jaxexpat Jun 2022 #7
I don't think Liz Cheney would have asked her about the incident if they didn't have corroboration ms liberty Jun 2022 #9
I agree. LoisB Jun 2022 #11
+1. Liz Cheney is not known to be stupid or naive dalton99a Jun 2022 #15
Let's get the GOP complainers under oath and see what they say. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2022 #10
Weren't the supreme court appointees under oath ? Oppaloopa Jun 2022 #34
Take that you lying bastards. spanone Jun 2022 #13
She's young. Cleansed of some of the stench she could still have a career. Marcuse Jun 2022 #14
She could... llmart Jun 2022 #17
My previous supervisor can be reached at his multi-million dollar gated residence in North Carolina. Marcuse Jun 2022 #23
LOL! llmart Jun 2022 #24
If you disagree, come on in, have a seat and tell us what you disagree with ... aggiesal Jun 2022 #16
"Ms. Hutchinson stands by all of the testimony..." myohmy2 Jun 2022 #19
I read it as "Come at us UNDER OATH or STFU" bringthePaine Jun 2022 #20
I'm sure there are many MAGAs with headaches and hangovers today. C Moon Jun 2022 #21
I wish you were correct....... MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #26
Who to trust - a guy with over 30,000 documented lies as president rurallib Jun 2022 #22
Rt💕TY.. magats weren't the only Cha Jun 2022 #25
Well sure! In my mind, establishing credibility is an evolving process. Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2022 #31
I believe Cassidy Hutchinson.. Not those Cha Jun 2022 #35
Of course.... Talking about at first Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2022 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2022 #32
'Sources said' vs 'testified under oath'. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #28
As much as it got on my nerves ... Novara Jun 2022 #30
Lindsey Graham gave away the truth of this -- Justice Jun 2022 #33

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
2. What peril?
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 05:38 PM
Jun 2022

They are not under oath, so they lie to their hearts content. It's not like Republican voters will hold them accountable for being liars. In fact, I believe Republican voters approve of the lying. Remember, "Don't take him literally, take him seriously."

AnnetteChaffee

(1,979 posts)
27. The problem is
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:13 AM
Jun 2022

That in these times, there are those who have no respect for, or fear of, lying under oath. They will put out their lies and tell them enough until the weak minded believe them. We have for so long made threats of what could happen if they break the law or lie under oath (putting their hand on their sacred bible and then lying their heads off), but never followed through, that they simply do not fear or respect the process any more and simply ignore the threats and continue their behavior.

It's so much like raising children. If you threaten, if you continually count to three but never ever follow through - the child quickly clocks that information and pushes just a bit more the next time. Soon you have an undisciplined terror for a toddler. Same situation here. In my house - one warning to give them a chance to think about the choice they are making, then I follow through. There is never a question of whether they are going to have a consequence because I've learned over the years that the ONLY way to raise respectful humans is to teach through loving consistency.

and face it - we are basically dealing with a bunch of people with the emotional maturity of toddlers so....


AC

Elessar Zappa

(13,964 posts)
36. It's not about Republican voters.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:05 PM
Jun 2022

It’s about swing voters. Polls already show these hearings are having an effect. 58% believe Trump should be held accountable for Jan. 6. That’s up something like 8 points from before the hearings.

Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #36)

homegirl

(1,428 posts)
29. COOLER HEADS WILL PREVAIL...
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:18 PM
Jun 2022

At the Reagan Presidential Library
tonight, Cheney warned: “[W]e are confronting a domestic threat that we have never faced before—and that is a former president who is attempting to unravel the foundations of our constitutional republic, and he is aided by Republican leaders and elected officials who have made themselves willing hostages to this dangerous and irrational man.”

“Donald Trump attempted to overturn the presidential election. He attempted to stay in office and to prevent the peaceful transfer of presidential power. He summoned a mob to Washington, He knew they were armed on January 6th. He knew they were angry. And he directed the violent mob to march on the Capitol in order to delay or prevent completely the counting of electoral votes. He attempted to go there with them. And when the violence was underway, he refused to take action to tell the rioters to leave. Instead, he incited further violence by tweeting that the vice president, Mike Pence, was a coward. He said ‘Mike deserves it,’ and he didn’t want to do anything in response to the ‘Hang Mike Pence’ chants. It’s undeniable. It’s also painful for Republicans to accept.”

She concluded: “The reality that we face today as Republicans, as we think about the choice in front of us, we have to choose because Republicans cannot both be loyal to Donald Trump and loyal to the Constitution.”

The audience broke out in applause.


Ford_Prefect

(7,892 posts)
6. ABC does not care about the truth, only the ratings and the click-bait headlines.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jun 2022

Those who live by the headline first tend to die by it, too.

Digital headline news delivery is an addiction fed by an inexhaustible source.

JohnSJ

(92,157 posts)
18. You might be right, but it was one of the major broadcasters, though I am pretty sure it wasn't CBS
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:26 PM
Jun 2022

ms liberty

(8,573 posts)
9. I don't think Liz Cheney would have asked her about the incident if they didn't have corroboration
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 06:32 PM
Jun 2022

At least some corroboration. I could be wrong, but she seems very focused on her work.

10. Let's get the GOP complainers under oath and see what they say.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 06:35 PM
Jun 2022

Otherwise, all they're saying is "blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah."

llmart

(15,536 posts)
17. She could...
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:14 PM
Jun 2022

as long as she doesn't put Mark Meadows down as a reference on her resume.

Love how she threw him under the bus and ran over him a couple times.

Marcuse

(7,479 posts)
23. My previous supervisor can be reached at his multi-million dollar gated residence in North Carolina.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:08 PM
Jun 2022

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
16. If you disagree, come on in, have a seat and tell us what you disagree with ...
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 06:59 PM
Jun 2022

Oh, and you'll be under oath.

Don't worry about such a little thing like perjury.
BTW, we have half-a-dozen others under oath that agree with Ms. Hutchinson's version.

myohmy2

(3,162 posts)
19. "Ms. Hutchinson stands by all of the testimony..."
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:38 PM
Jun 2022

...of course she does...

...she voluntarily comes before the Committee under great personal risk and testifies under oath on national television just to tell lies?

...only in trump-world...

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
26. I wish you were correct.......
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:39 PM
Jun 2022

but I truly have my doubts.

Unlike Watergate, when the 'details' of the 18 'missing minutes' of the tapes revealed that Nixon WAS lying, and a group of REPUBLICANS went to talk to their REPUBLICAN President and told him to "F-OFF!"- we now have RepubliQans who continue to OBEY THEIR LEADER and PROMOTE THE LIE - their fingers in their ears and singing "La-la-la-la-la-la" up and down the very halls where their lives were in jeopardy on January 6.

I pray for our country - we have THE chance to make it better this November. It may be our LAST chance.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
22. Who to trust - a guy with over 30,000 documented lies as president
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:57 PM
Jun 2022

who is threatening his underlings to make them lie

or - well, no contest.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
25. Rt💕TY.. magats weren't the only
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:14 PM
Jun 2022

ones questioning Cassie Hutchenson's Veracity.

Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
31. Well sure! In my mind, establishing credibility is an evolving process.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 03:21 PM
Jun 2022

Especially for people who take nothing, regardless of where it comes from, as sacrosanct.

First of all, she WAS a MAGat herself!! And supposedly the last person they thought would go against trump world. But then you realize that the Committee would NEVER put her on stage if they didn't believe her or have corroborating evidence. Add to that her sheer believability in the way she testified.

Response to Cha (Reply #25)

Voltaire2

(13,021 posts)
28. 'Sources said' vs 'testified under oath'.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:32 AM
Jun 2022

Media playing this as equivalent need to be taken out back to the journalism woodshed.

Novara

(5,841 posts)
30. As much as it got on my nerves ...
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 01:46 PM
Jun 2022

... to hear her repeatedly say "... said something to the effect of ..." this was the smartest way to testify to obvious hearsay. She was clear about what she witnessed and what others said. That allowed her to be completely truthful. She never once said someone said EXACTLY something, except she came close once when she was pretty adamant about the gist of something (I am forgetting what it was). She was very discerning and she made a powerful, highly credible witness. That's what they're afraid of.

Anyone who is trying to discredit her is purposely ignoring the fact of how credible she is because the highly professional, believable, and complete way she recounted events.

Justice

(7,185 posts)
33. Lindsey Graham gave away the truth of this --
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 03:48 PM
Jun 2022

He tweeted: "Apparently Ms. Hutchinson testified numerous times for multiple hours about what she knew about the events leading up to January 6 and the aftermath.

In her previous testimony did she mention the dramatic events described today?"

June 28 at 5:35 PM

Graham hasn't said that about anyone else. Why else would he say that just about Cassidy's testimony?

Likely because Cassidy's original lawyer who was paid by Trump and shared his client's testimony with Trump who repeated it to others or who were told directly. Yeks.
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