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JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 06:35 PM Jun 2022

A "mystery rocket" crashed into the moon and NASA is baffled as to origin


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A “mystery rocket” crashed into the Moon earlier this year and NASA says none of Earth’s space-faring nations have claimed it as theirs:

NASA has discovered the crash site of a "mystery rocket body" that collided with the Moon's surface earlier this year. The impact left behind a widespread "double crater," meaning it wasn't the average rocket.

However, since its crash landing, none of Earth's space-exploring nations have claimed responsibility for the mysterious projectile, leaving NASA scientists baffled as to who was behind its launch. New images shared on June 24 by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter show the unusual impact site.

"Surprisingly the crater is actually two craters, an eastern crater (18-meter diameter, about 19.5 yards) superimposed on a western crater (16-meter diameter, about 17.5 yards," NASA reported. "The double crater was unexpected...No other rocket body impacts on the Moon created double craters."

Astronomers anticipated the crash after spotting the unidentified rocket on a collision course with the Moon late last year. It finally hit on March 4 near the Hertzsprung crater, a "complex" impact crater on the far side of the Moon. NASA stated that the two large masses on each end of the rocket may have caused the craters, but noted that the impact marks are highly unusual. Spent rockets, according to NASA, tend to have a heavy motor at one end and a lighter empty fuel tank on the other, scientists say. The space agency did not offer any guesses on what the additional mass was.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/mystery-rocket-NASA-moon-crash-country-origin-17273903.php



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A "mystery rocket" crashed into the moon and NASA is baffled as to origin (Original Post) JoanofArgh Jun 2022 OP
K&R BlueJac Jun 2022 #1
How do they know it was a rocket? grumpyduck Jun 2022 #2
little green men.....???? essaynnc Jun 2022 #3
was it an active rocket? Takket Jun 2022 #4
No, it wasn't 'burning' - none of them can do that for long - just minutes muriel_volestrangler Jun 2022 #20
I would expect that NORAD would be aware of any rocket launches Victor_c3 Jun 2022 #35
Obviously came in from the lost planet Oron. Sneederbunk Jun 2022 #5
OH MY GOD, THEY BOMBED THE MOON. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #6
Gomer gohmert dweller Jun 2022 #10
Menstrual cycles...trying to get all women... ret5hd Jun 2022 #18
NASA sent it. It's a scam to get them funding to send another astronaut to the Moon. Towlie Jun 2022 #7
NASA smelt it, I bet they dealt it (Nt) FreepFryer Jun 2022 #8
nah... myohmy2 Jun 2022 #22
Very interesting. An old rocket from the USSR? captain queeg Jun 2022 #9
I thought that I read that China was sending a vehicle Firestorm49 Jun 2022 #17
Yeah. I think they already did. Can't remember if it had a lander. captain queeg Jun 2022 #21
Damn, so that's where it landed gratuitous Jun 2022 #11
1996 movie, Independence Day. We are looking at them, they are looking at us. irisblue Jun 2022 #12
I'm guessing it is from one of 5 nations. LonePirate Jun 2022 #13
Does the rocket look like a coffin and does it say Hargreeves anywhere on Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #14
It must have something to do with Jewish space lasers. madinmaryland Jun 2022 #15
That moon is our's ! dweller Jun 2022 #16
29 meters - those are big holes ThoughtCriminal Jun 2022 #19
Only one interstellar object could leave a double crater. Beastly Boy Jun 2022 #23
It was Danny 48656c6c6f20 Jun 2022 #24
The Borg sent Voyager back...they're not interested...n/t bluecollar2 Jun 2022 #25
Ordered and executed by North Korea's Midget King Stinky The Clown Jun 2022 #26
Wouldn't US satellites have noticed if a rocket had been launched from earth? TomSlick Jun 2022 #27
Le Voyage dans le Lune...maybe it was French? AntiFascist Jun 2022 #28
I think it was that Tesla car Musk shot into space... Paha Sapa Jun 2022 #29
As a Tesla driver I LOL'd! beaglelover Jun 2022 #31
Why do they assume it came from Earth?? beaglelover Jun 2022 #30
They were tracking it before it hit the Moon. MineralMan Jun 2022 #36
Maybe a private person built it Polybius Jun 2022 #32
Seems unlikely to me. It's hard enough to put something in MineralMan Jun 2022 #37
It could be this guy. area51 Jun 2022 #33
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Takket

(21,529 posts)
4. was it an active rocket?
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 06:44 PM
Jun 2022

i'm wondering when it was "found" late last year, was it still burning fuel on a collision course, or was it something that was adrift in orbit for some amount of time and just now crashed into the moon? if it was still "burning" then it couldn't have been launched that long before it was discovered. Doesn't NASA monitor pretty much everything launched into orbit?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
20. No, it wasn't 'burning' - none of them can do that for long - just minutes
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:15 PM
Jun 2022

(apart from the few ion-drive-engined craft NASA has launched, and they're well tracked). It's something launched years ago. In January, they thought it was a SpaceX stage launched in 2015; by February, a Chinese stage launched in 2014. But they just don't seem able to tell, and it looks like none of them want to admit having no idea where their junk has ended up.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
35. I would expect that NORAD would be aware of any rocket launches
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 09:28 AM
Jun 2022

They observe such things as part of our nuclear weapon defense.

Definitely interesting.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
6. OH MY GOD, THEY BOMBED THE MOON.
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 06:45 PM
Jun 2022

THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO IT, AND THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.

(Old DU callback.)

ThoughtCriminal

(14,046 posts)
19. 29 meters - those are big holes
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 07:14 PM
Jun 2022

"No other rocket body impacts on the Moon created double craters. The four Apollo SIV-B craters were somewhat irregular in outline (Apollos 13, 14, 15, 17) and were substantially larger (greater than 35 meters, about 38 yards) than each of the double craters. The maximum width (29 meters, about 31.7 yards) of the double crater of the mystery rocket body was near that of the S-IVBs."

The SIV-B was a pretty big rocket stage.


Paha Sapa

(421 posts)
29. I think it was that Tesla car Musk shot into space...
Wed Jun 29, 2022, 09:17 PM
Jun 2022

and it was using the auto drive feature (heh, heh).

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
36. They were tracking it before it hit the Moon.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:09 AM
Jun 2022

So, they probably have a good idea of its overall trajectory.

Still, they don't know where it came from. Odd. Maybe North Korea? Who knows?

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
37. Seems unlikely to me. It's hard enough to put something in
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:11 AM
Jun 2022

Earth orbit. Hitting the moon is more complicated and requires a higher speed to get there. Clearly, this was a rather large object, if it made those two craters. It's an interesting mystery. China could have done it, of course. Maybe even North Korea.

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