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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWith these Supreme Court decisions, if the young people aren't motivated to come out in huge numbers
and vote Democratic right down the ballot, then nothing every will
OrlandoDem2
(2,065 posts)Put the SCOTUS in the damn ballot!
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Cosmocat
(14,561 posts)quit with the bullshit.
Either people want to live in an chriso-fascist authoritarian idiocracy (and vote R) or a functioning democracy (vote D).
We don't stand a chance to turn this around until all the cards on the table, and sadly, I don't have a lot of confidence that it would work out how we would want if that were to happen, either.
JohnSJ
(92,116 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Will conclude since Biden is POTUS, he's responsible.
Fact is, a hell of a lot of people know sweet-fuck-all about how the government works, and don't pay attention to what it's doing anyway. They've heard Roe has gone down, but that's probably about it.
Sorry to be a wet blanket, and I hope to hell I'm very wrong, obviously.
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walkingman
(7,591 posts)spooky3
(34,428 posts)for younger people than others). The challenge for Dems is messaging. Can they explain to potential voters WHY certain decisions/votes have occurred, how their lives are affected, and why its essential to vote in more Dems to change the trend?
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:46 AM - Edit history (1)
The fact that the WHY has to be explained in the first place. Most people can't name the 3 branches of government, have no clue WHY the president can't wave a wand and lower gas prices, had no clue WHY the supreme court should have been THE reason to vote in 2016, don't have a clue WHY a 50 + VP majority in the senate can't get anything passed. And on and on and on. At what point, or age does is become the peoples responsibility to know WHY and stop depending on it being spoon fed to them?
spooky3
(34,428 posts)mcar
(42,296 posts)Information, real information, is at their fingertips. They have time to find out. If they choose to not pay attention (but at the same time get themselves all worked up about the latest far left chew toy like student loan debt), that is a choice they are making.
They've got no business blaming one person.
We are in the mess, in no small part because of 2016 GE voters who let themselves believe that a person who had no political experience and was an obvious Russian tool was more qualified to be president than HRC.
I can no longer make excuses for these people.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)betsuni
(25,449 posts)Young people are recently out of or still in school, they should be used to studying something, doing research. Yet it seems too much to ask to apply those skills to the future of their country because the chew toys that make them angry and emotional are more fun. Emotion over thinking.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)It's not JUST "the young people". They are an easy target to blame, but at some point, the "older people" need to take their share of the responsibility for this cluster that is happening right now. The REAL problem? It's not my fault, it's all those young people. It's called accountability. And it's not all on the shoulders of the "young". And while I'm at it, define young. Specifically what age group does all this blame fall on?
TheRealNorth
(9,475 posts)It's the older people, in the aggregate, that voted the Republicans in.
But it is frustrating that younger people are not engaged in that it's their future that we are trying to save.
betsuni
(25,449 posts)I explained why I think they should be better at thinking. Old people get lazy and set in their ways.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Get a Dem majority and expand the Court. This imbalance cannot be tolerated for another 30+ years.
SCOTUS has become a huge problem that must be solved.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Here to say I was wrong. This partisan imbalance is untenable, and unsustainable for a democracy.
OrlandoDem2
(2,065 posts)In It to Win It
(8,231 posts)make certain statutes unreviewable, such as those aimed at climate change and abortion rights... if it wishes to take that path.
bottomofthehill
(8,327 posts)Have 5 or even 7 hear a case on a lottery system selection.
The fix is in now, lets fix the fix and make the court work again.
In It to Win It
(8,231 posts)Can assume everyone is paying attention to SCOTUS opinions.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)there was a way to craft a message that reaches everyone, somehow. A unified message blasting TV, social media, and all other forms of media. A message that is NOT seemingly measured, "respecting" the opponents as has always been done when it was politics as usual.
I don't mean a dangerously absurd approach of Trump and MAGA, but a rational yet hair-on-fire campaign making people aware that SHIT IS REAL and those dismantling our rights, our democracy and are lives MUST BE DEFEATED IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS.
Obama's team had a good approach using highly visible celebrities and social media to get out the vote. The Biden Administration really needs to replicate that...somehow.
It just popped into my head the Key and Peele "angry Obama" sketches. Have Olivia Rodrigo and others be "angry Biden" and Biden is there, putting his stamp on the message even if he doesn't have the demeanor which allows him to be so publicly angry.
That's a pretty good idea, if I say so myself.
sop
(10,146 posts)"God, guns and gays" should no longer be the rallying cry of the extreme right, young people need to adopt it as their own.
why this ALL falls on the shoulders of young people? Have they had low voter turnout in the past, yes, forever. Yet somehow the country managed to not burn to the ground. But all of a sudden it's all their fault. Is it? Really?
sop
(10,146 posts)I rest my case.
sop
(10,146 posts)samsingh
(17,594 posts)that is motivating and we should go further.
i think the right wing needs to be demolished
I hate to say it, but if young voters don't vote up and down the ballot for Democrats, they are determining their own miserable futures and that of our planet.
I've been out there protesting, working on GOTV, and building a small but enthusiastic group of Democrats-in-a-red-county to do what we can. The majority of us are over age 60.
It's time for young adults to stand up for what they want, instead of just complaining on social media and threatening to not vote*.
*Not all young adults.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,143 posts)Why does anybody think young people will behave differently this time?