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Heather Cox Richardson (TDPR)
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The Supreme Court has gone rogue. We are in a full-blown Constitutional crisis. Congress must act. And we must pressure Congress to act, while it still can. #TheMajority
8:19 AM · Jun 30, 2022
Expanding the Supreme Court has to be done. It's the absolute most important thing right now.
Tetrachloride
(7,728 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,262 posts)With lottery picks of 7 person panel to hear cases.
FakeNoose
(32,356 posts)As long as the lottery picks are truly random.
Sooner or later the Repukes will figure out how to game the system. They always do.
Lucid Dreamer
(584 posts)I love the element of chance involved. I guess it's the gambler in me.
LiberalFighter
(50,506 posts)After the first selection consist of three from previous selection and four that had not been selected before. And could not be selected to more than two in a row.
It would need more tweaking to balance it out.
soldierant
(6,648 posts)The last time SCOTUS numbers changed, to 9, it was because it had the responsibility to supervise 9 lower courts. There are now 13 of those lower courts.
bottomofthehill
(8,262 posts)I like the way you think!
soldierant
(6,648 posts)is not allowing people screaming, "Unprecedented!" to get away with it. There's plent of precedent.
bottomofthehill
(8,262 posts)I could be sold on further saying President Biden could appoint 2 and then one for each of the next 2 presidents. It would not immediately flop the court and would give Chief Justice Roberts a chance to remake the center and restore some confidence in the court.
soldierant
(6,648 posts)That is wicked clever nd should silence all but the most insane.
But we'd have to be certain we'd have two more Dem Presidents or it would all be i vain.
wryter2000
(46,016 posts)Problem solved
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Works for me.
wryter2000
(46,016 posts)So he'd lose every case.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)No way does he get to decide anything.
wryter2000
(46,016 posts)yardwork
(61,420 posts)rubbersole
(6,529 posts)Alito is. Nazi bastard.
calimary
(80,700 posts)Wonder how hell behave now that his claim to only Black Justice on the Supreme Court status has been done away with.
Youre not special anymore, dude.
SergeStorms
(18,907 posts)In a 'short bus' kinda' way.
Since when?
wryter2000
(46,016 posts)But a lot of people have concluded he's running things now.
suncat
(41 posts)liberalla
(9,166 posts)markie
(22,755 posts)wnylib
(21,146 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)wnylib
(21,146 posts)that simple Jackson went right past me.
soldierant
(6,648 posts)but I think she'd go for that trio.
TheRealNorth
(9,435 posts)wryter2000
(46,016 posts)Just play six choruses of "Hit the Road, Jack."
sir pball
(4,726 posts)If the Court were shrunk, Justices would most likely have to be cut/reassigned in descending order of seniority.
As of today, that would leave Thomas, Alito and Roberts.
wryter2000
(46,016 posts)We know that's not practical.
Midnight Writer
(21,552 posts)This nonsense where one retirement, one death, one appointment can mean a total upheaval of our laws and precedents is insane.
This way, we would have a Supreme Court that at least somewhat reflects the Will of the People and that is designed to adapt to the times.
It would also dilute the political ramifications of a single appointment.
If that mean a Supreme Court of 50, 60 Justices, so be it. If they want to do a lottery to determine what Judges hear a case, that is fine. If they want to have every Judge listen to every case and have an equal vote, that would be OK, too.
CaptainTruth
(6,546 posts)Each POTUS gets 1 pick per term, maximum 2 picks for 2 terms.
Each POTUS term the longest serving justice is the one replaced. With 9 justices & 4-year POTUS terms that would mean each SCOTUS judge would serve 36 years.
It will probably never happen, but it's more equitable than the method we have now, IMHO.
gab13by13
(20,884 posts)We need to add Senators in 2022, 2024 will be a challenge.
SunSeeker
(51,378 posts)Vdizzle
(382 posts)SunSeeker
(51,378 posts)ancianita
(35,816 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_District_of_Columbia
SunSeeker
(51,378 posts)ancianita
(35,816 posts)Because it's a district and not a territory.
SunSeeker
(51,378 posts)Republicans won't let DC be a state, even though it has more people in it than Wyoming. The reason DC is not a state is Republicans know it will add 2 Democratic Senators. Same with Guam, VI and PR Republicans want a stacked deck, not a level playing field. They can't win or control Congress if it's a level playing field. They like how a minority of the population (namely, conservative rural white people) are overrepresented right now in Congress, and want to keep it that way.
OMGWTF
(3,901 posts)The reality is thats 42 (mostly Rethuglican) senators vs. TWO senators in CA. That seems VERY undemocratic to me.
SunSeeker
(51,378 posts)As is the electoral college.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,373 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Don't know if his will, of course. There's more talk of impeachment in congress as well.
progressoid
(49,827 posts)We don't have time.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)we're not talking about evolution of a nation but one president's decision. This one learned more about all these issues decades ago than most of us will ever know and has kept advancing his outlook ever since.
He no doubt knows what combinations of changes in factors he would want to see to change this position, as well as those related to various other actions that can be taken.
W_HAMILTON
(7,813 posts)Get him in enough Democratic Senators willing to do it and I highly doubt he would be the one to put a stop to it, especially as more and more of these disastrous decisions come out every day.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to get their ducks in a row, also judicial forces, powers outside government, etc.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,506 posts)He needs fifty Senators to make it happen.
Wednesdays
(17,250 posts)The key to that is GOTV! GOTV!
ultralite001
(891 posts)and start over...
That is all...
ShazzieB
(15,960 posts)Impeach Sotomayor and Kagan? No way! Impeach Jackson who only just got sworn in? Give me a break! You want to punish them because the other 6 are assholes?
I sure hope you were kidding, because they do NOT deserve that.
LaMouffette
(2,013 posts)frenzy right now. They're getting everything done that their bosses (the Koch brothers, Federalist Society, GOP, and the rest of the American oligarchy) want them to get done while they can.
This is just like the flurry of pardons Mango Mussolini issued before being expelled from the presidency:
"Hurry, hurry, hurry! Can you believe the founding fathers gave us this much power and Congress is doing nothing to stop us from destroying democracy??? Suckers!!!"
Delmette2.0
(4,143 posts)If the conservative justices can review past decisions so can a majority of liberal justices.
calimary
(80,700 posts)Sometimes those moldie-oldie cliches still spell it out as fresh as a new morning.
CaptainTruth
(6,546 posts)Rabrrrrrr
(58,347 posts)That's my fear with expanding the court now - we take it to 13 and let Biden choose four justices and it'll be awesome for our side; then the next Republican fuck president or congress expands it to 27 and chooses 14 new ones.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)while in office should be nullified, especially his appointments to the Supreme Court.
If justice could be truly served in the US, this would be able to happen.
NJCher
(35,435 posts)Had any decency, they would resign.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Unfortunately, there's nothing that allows for that remedy.
H2O Man
(73,333 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,653 posts)SCROTUS would have called it all legal-like, 6-3 January 7.
Magoo48
(4,660 posts)Congress critters, please do something. CS please lead. President Biden, please push, use leverage, executive orders, emergency measures, something.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and legal principles all Americans grew up. What we feeling without thinking as "The American Way." And that's good of course.
Biden badly needs Democratic majorities in congress that can take action. Including strong enough to consider possible legislative alterations to SCOTUS, only one of which is expansion. Making impeachment actually doable is desirable also; right now the Thomas majority isn't scared of them.
czarjak
(11,197 posts)live love laugh
(13,010 posts)Pepsidog
(6,252 posts)How dumb must previous SCOTUS decisions be if they are so easily tossed aside by these maniacs. Have they no decency at all! Shame-Shame-Shame.
Cha
(295,929 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)If shes alarmed, its shitshow time (not that we didnt already know that here)
Upthevibe
(7,884 posts)"We must pressure Congress to act, while it still can."
IT CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We DON'T have the votes. I know it's not you, Nevilledog, who's saying this and you just posted it.
I almost go into cardiac arrest when people say we're not doing what needs to be done. WTF- Am I missing something?!!!???
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Duppers
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Marthe48
(16,697 posts)but the 6 unelected, unaccountable spokespeople for the fascist minority needs to be stopped. The decisions last week make no sense. There is no continuity in the rulings-just whims. I felt like when they ruled that the Stay in Mexico law could expire, they pulled the wrong slip of paper out their asses.
I have lived 2/3s of my life with EPA regulations. I've lived 2/3s of my life with abortion rights. Most of my life with Miranda laws. I have lived my whole life with separation of church and state. Right now, it is like doing a crossword puzzle and the down answers are listed first instead of the across answers. It is WRONG. ALL WRONG.
The 6 fascists on the court have to be stopped. Whatever recourse we have to reverse this enemy's course, we have to take it. They have turned my country into a smoldering wreck in just days. The minority of fascists and their minions on the court have destroyed my country just as badly as if they had turned missles on it.