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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Trump had gone to the Capitol, what did he intend to do there?
I am curious as to what TFG intended to do if he was taken to the Capitol on Jan. 6. This stunt makes little sense to me
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-gone-capitol-intend-rcna35942
Until this point, we had not seen proof that he knew about the violence, said Daniel Goldman, a former federal prosecutor who served as the lead counsel during Mr. Trumps first impeachment and is currently running for Congress in New York. The testimony made very clear he was not only entirely aware of the threat, but wanted armed people to march to the Capitol. He was even willing to lead them.
Thats a handy and accurate summary: Theres compelling evidence that Trump summoned enraged followers, assembled an armed mob just south of the White House, filled them with lies, and had every intention of joining them as they descended on the nations seat of government.
To be sure, this seems like the sort of thing that might be of interest to federal law enforcement. But as we digest the revelations, I have a related question: What exactly was Trump prepared to do once he arrived at the Capitol?......
Viewers saw Hutchinson during a previously recorded deposition, when she was asked whether other White House officials indicated what the then-president hoped to accomplish after arriving on the Hill. She responded:
I remember hearing a few different ideas discussed with between [then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows] and [Republican Rep.] Scott Perry, Mark and Rudy Giuliani. I dont know which conversations were elevated to the president. I dont know what he personally wanted to do when he went up to the Capitol that day. You know, I I know that there were discussions about him having another speech outside of the Capitol before going in. I know that there was a conversation about him going into the House chamber at one point.
Thats a rather striking detail. There were conversations presumably in advance of Jan. 6 involving the then-White House chief of staff, the then-presidents campaign lawyer, and a Republican member of Congress allied with the White House. They kicked around ideas about Trump, after arriving at the Capitol with his followers, giving another speech, possibly even inside the House chamber, to which he had not been invited.
TexasTowelie
(111,977 posts)EYESORE 9001
(25,908 posts)since Mussolini. A strutting sack of shit jacked-up on Adderall and attitude.
agingdem
(7,805 posts)to the Capital and into the House chambers...and then Mussolini
Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)
fight his SS detail and grab the wheel was fabricated by HIM as an excuse for not going to the Capitol. Hes a coward in his heart, but he wanted to be able to say my agents wouldnt let me go!
TheRealNorth
(9,471 posts)But maybe he thought he could order the Capitol Police to stand down, and then he and his supporters would do their best "blackshirt" impression and install Trump like the blackshirts installed Mussolini when they marched on Rome.
Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)
he never intended to go, and came up with this story as a cover so the cult wouldnt think less of him for not showing up. When the shit went Tango Uniform, he likely abandoned it because he thought it would look bad politically for him to have wanted to be there so badly. That would explain why the agents initially told the story to Hutchinson, but then went silent on it later.
JMHO.
jmbar2
(4,865 posts)Caused me to have a covid laughing/hacking attack.
Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)phrase. And Im using it a lot here lately.
ProfessorGAC
(64,877 posts)I don't believe for a second he wanted to be on the front line.
Remember that he whined about how low class they looked & he was only watching TV coverage.
That guy wanted to be amongst them? I doubt it.
Rustynaerduwell
(663 posts)Declare Martial Law.
TheRealNorth
(9,471 posts)And to use the RW militias to take care of Democratic leadership. We know that as fact.
LetMyPeopleVote
(144,945 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,038 posts)2naSalit
(86,371 posts)grumpyduck
(6,225 posts)IMHO, a galaxy-class clusterfuck between the rioters, the Capitol Police, the SS, and tfg itself.
The other question is, what would flyboy have done?
Vinca
(50,237 posts)he loves so much. Stores would run out of Depends. As soon as he got there he'd be looking for Pelosi's office to hide in.
dchill
(38,453 posts)Trump is a metaphor for shit on the wall.
sop
(10,106 posts)and his absence was the only reason it got out of hand. Everyone knows he only wanted to go down to the Capitol to save Pence's life from the bloodthirsty Antifa hordes....because he alone can fix things. Trump really deserves a medal.
magicarpet
(14,124 posts).... would has sought refuge under Pelosi's skirt once he arrived at the Capitol and things got hot and heavy.
Fatsolini would have shit a brick if his militia's bullets started to fly because of the mayhem and madness he created at the Capitol. If he had showed a blood bath of great magnitude would have occurred.
usonian
(9,704 posts)Whether or not there was a plan, I await TFG throwing his cronies under the bus or cronies throwing TFG under the bus.
In my opinion, either one or both would disrupt the Party of Nothing© rather than the Union, as some think that an indictment would.
INCREASE THE PRESSURE ON THEM
Chainfire
(17,474 posts)Apparently he did not believe that there were any ANTIFA or BLM in the crowd...
Novara
(5,822 posts)If he did, there's no way he would have dreamed about being anywhere near the Capitol.
anarch
(6,535 posts)presumably also oversee the execution of anyone in congress who dared to disagree with this change in direction for U.S. leadership
LetMyPeopleVote
(144,945 posts)TFG thought that he could stage a "made of tv" moment with this stunt
Link to tweet
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/01/trump-capitol-riot-march/
Trump brought it up repeatedly with key advisers in the Oval Office, according to a person who talked with him about it. The president told others he wanted a dramatic, made-for-TV moment that could pressure Republican lawmakers to support his demand to throw out the electoral college results showing that Joe Biden had defeated him, the person said.
The excursion that almost happened came into clearer focus this week, as the House committee investigating the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 presented explosive testimony and records detailing Trumps fervent demands to lead his supporters mobbing the seat of government. Though Trumps trip was ultimately thwarted by his own security officers, the new evidence cuts closer to the critical question of what he knew about the violence in store for that day.
Trump has acknowledged his foiled effort to reach the Capitol. Secret Service wouldnt let me, he told The Washington Post in April. I wanted to go. I wanted to go so badly. Secret Service says you cant go. I would have gone there in a minute.,,,,,
This account of Trumps ceaseless plotting to join the mob at the Capitol on Jan. 6 is based on committee testimony and evidence as well as 15 former officials, aides, law enforcement officials and others, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to reveal internal details.
Aides did not know where Trump got the idea, this person said, but it wasnt from inside the White House. The chief of staff, Mark Meadows, discussed plans to bring Trump to the Capitol with Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.) and lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who was leading the campaigns efforts to overturn the election results, according to testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, a close aide to Meadows.
tanyev
(42,523 posts)I worry I might injure myself someday rolling my eyes at that idiot.
mopinko
(70,023 posts)you know how he feels about being shorter than other leaders.
but he doesnt know history, so he didnt see that it was waterloo.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)At the most he hoped the mob would have taken over the Capitol Building by his arrival, so he could march into the House chamber & declare himself God Emperor.
Emile
(22,508 posts)their shoulders as a conquering hero.