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Church worker harassing reproductive rights protester. (Original Post) StrictlyRockers Jul 2022 OP
He's crowding her personal space leftieNanner Jul 2022 #1
Yep! StrictlyRockers Jul 2022 #7
He could care less about the issue. He likes to humiliate and bully women. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #2
I enhanced that image CurtEastPoint Jul 2022 #3
The only thing he worships is his own christofascist balls. Nt Gaugamela Jul 2022 #4
From the photographer: dalton99a Jul 2022 #5
It depends on what she is saying through the bullhorn, of course gulliver Jul 2022 #6
Equivocation, eh? MineralMan Jul 2022 #9
I have the same instinct, of course. gulliver Jul 2022 #11
It doesn't matter. That man has no right to attempt to MineralMan Jul 2022 #13
I like your approach. gulliver Jul 2022 #16
He's got those "Secret Service" shades on. MineralMan Jul 2022 #8
Assholier-than-thou Higherarky Jul 2022 #10
If I were that young woman, I'd turn to my left and screech Trailrider1951 Jul 2022 #12
Wait until he learns the error of his ways when he arrives at hell. Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #14
That's Christianity in a nutshell. BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #15
Nice broad brush sarisataka Jul 2022 #17
I'd bet he doesn't have a uterus ironflange Jul 2022 #18
My first thought is grab his stupid sunglass and throw them. I bet he paid too much Maraya1969 Jul 2022 #19
Good goddess- is that fruitloop going for the "Matrix" look or something? Thtwudbeme Jul 2022 #20

leftieNanner

(15,160 posts)
1. He's crowding her personal space
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:14 PM
Jul 2022

Just like Trump did to Secretary Clinton in the debates.

Toxic Asshole Bullies. Both of them.

gulliver

(13,197 posts)
6. It depends on what she is saying through the bullhorn, of course
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:44 PM
Jul 2022

In general, I don't think it's exactly Christian to do what this guy is doing. He's clearly violating her space in not just an un-Christian way but in an unmanly way. The sunglasses are particularly small, weak, and lame. He looks like a thoroughgoing coward.

However, there's an outside chance she was saying something derogatory, something that might be considered indecent, or something that bespoke anti-Christian bigotry. There's no place for any of that anywhere, particularly outside or near a church. I clicked the tweet, and there appears to be no audio. Therefore, it's hard to tell if only one of the people in the picture are in the wrong or, perhaps, both are.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
9. Equivocation, eh?
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:51 PM
Jul 2022

Look at the photo. There's only one bad guy in it.

She can say whatever she wants. She's on a public sidewalk. She has that right, see. Dude's threatening her. He doesn't have that right.

So, one of them is right and the other one is wrong. Which is which, do you think?

You don't get to equivocate on this.

What's needed is for someone to walk up and whisper in that asshole's ear: "Back off, asshole. You're threatening her." That's what I'd do. Yes, I would.

gulliver

(13,197 posts)
11. I have the same instinct, of course.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:04 PM
Jul 2022

My thought was, yeah, regardless of what she was saying, the guy needs to be shoved back from her. Hopefully there's a cliff behind him. (This is, please, a joke, but it does represent the direction of my feeling toward the guy.)

It's not equivocation at all though. I'm personally sick of being manipulated through the rhetorical use of photos. I don't like it anywhere. Photos don't speak for themselves. If the case is going to be conclusive, then it is the reporter's responsibility to ensure that what we're looking at in the photo fully represents the situation.

There's no audio with the tweet as far as I can tell, but we are told this happened near a church. That does raise some possible issues, doesn't it? Do you trust the tweeter not to manipulate? What's the chain of trust?

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
13. It doesn't matter. That man has no right to attempt to
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:14 PM
Jul 2022

intimidate her into not exercising her right to free speech. She is in a public place. I don't care what she is saying. She has a right to say it. Clearly, that man is attempting to intimidate her into leaving or at least to stop talking.

I would not touch him. Not on your life. I would simply step up and whisper quietly in his hear the words I wrote before. I have done it before at Planned Parenthood clinics, when someone was trying to intimidate someone seeking medical care there. It works quite well. If nothing else, it distracts the bully so the woman can go on about her business there.

It's simple. That man in the dark glasses was attempting to intimidate that woman. Clearly. Obviously. Someone needed to step up and insist that he stop doing that. No physical contact is needed. Just a little of the same treatment he is giving that woman. It works just fine.

gulliver

(13,197 posts)
16. I like your approach.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:26 PM
Jul 2022

I'd like to say it would be mine, but I'm just not sure. I haven't been in that situation. I'd like to think that if I were there with the woman, the guy would sense that it wouldn't be a good idea to do what he's doing. I'm not Arnold Schwarzenegger (or even close), by the way. But this guy's doing something that's definitively cowardly and rotten.

Now, is it possible for there to be two wrongs here? Yeah, definitely. I know you have a good imagination (which I mean as a compliment), so I know you can imagine something coming out of the bullhorn in some more completely reported context that would prompt an unmanly young man to make an "honor and decency" mistake of his own and invade the woman's space.

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
8. He's got those "Secret Service" shades on.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:48 PM
Jul 2022

Fancies himself some kind of authority figure, I suppose. Threatening demeanor, as well.

Pure assholery, there.

Higherarky

(637 posts)
10. Assholier-than-thou
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 02:56 PM
Jul 2022

The guy's not her dad, not an on-duty cop ... He has no business trying to tell her what to do, let alone being all up in her space. What a jerk! What a creep!!

Trailrider1951

(3,415 posts)
12. If I were that young woman, I'd turn to my left and screech
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:11 PM
Jul 2022

loud enough to wake the dead. His ears would ring for a month!

sarisataka

(18,779 posts)
17. Nice broad brush
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 03:34 PM
Jul 2022
"I was not raised in a particularly religious household. I had a father who was born a Muslim but became an atheist, grandparents who were non-practicing Methodists and Baptists, and a mother who was skeptical of organized religion, even as she was the kindest, most spiritual person I've ever known. She was the one who taught me as a child to love, and to understand, and to do unto others as I would want done.

"I didn't become a Christian until many years later, when I moved to the South Side of Chicago after college. It happened not because of indoctrination or a sudden revelation, but because I spent month after month working with church folks who simply wanted to help neighbors who were down on their luck no matter what they looked like, or where they came from, or who they prayed to. It was on those streets, in those neighborhoods, that I first heard God's spirit beckon me. It was there that I felt called to a higher purpose -- His purpose."
Barak Obama

Maraya1969

(22,505 posts)
19. My first thought is grab his stupid sunglass and throw them. I bet he paid too much
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 04:09 PM
Jul 2022

for them and would run.

(I have a "punch first" attitude that I know if not right. And I am only commenting on the internet at a picture) But that guy really pisses me off the way he is hovering around her.

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
20. Good goddess- is that fruitloop going for the "Matrix" look or something?
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 04:13 PM
Jul 2022

He looks ridiculous. Jesus, imagine being married to him.

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