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Magoo48

(6,739 posts)
1. I would argue we are unwilling to stop "them".
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 08:57 AM
Jul 2022

Massive, sustained, grassroots direct-actions and peaceful civil disobedience will stop them.
The fix for a clusterfuck like the one we face will only be solved from the bottom up. Our “leaders” are paralyzed by decades of deceit and corruption on one hand and terribly inadequate response and backpedaling on the other.

I say we are unwilling to respond because, well, recent history…
We, as a majority whose rights continue to dissolve, Refuse To Be Inconvenienced—even for the sake of our freedoms.

Magoo48

(6,739 posts)
3. The juxtaposition is one hand to the other.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 09:06 AM
Jul 2022

If you read it, you’ll see that Dems are the other hand, unless you are confused about whom is which.

betsuni

(29,292 posts)
4. Don't know what that means.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 09:14 AM
Jul 2022

You said "Our leaders are paralyzed by decades of deceit and corruption ... ." Who do you mean? If you only mean Republicans, say so.

Magoo48

(6,739 posts)
6. Why, of course I mean Republicans. Dems would never be deceitful or corrupt, would they?
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 10:00 AM
Jul 2022

You seem to be mostly concerned with Dem reputations; honest people are generally known to be honest. What concerns me is the here and now, here and now, public inaction in support of our Dem leaders and in opposition to ReTrumplicans further deepens the present drift into fascism.

harumph

(3,415 posts)
5. Only massive voter turnout for our side will stop them.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 09:51 AM
Jul 2022

Civil disobedience depends on a sympathetic and informed mass audience (with a conscience) - we don't have that anymore.
Truly, mass peaceful protests (note the term peaceful) are totally limp dick moves. The politicians don't care
and the media doesn't care unless it's BLM doing some damage which they'll use to support right wing
talking points. In case I'm not making myself clear - nobody gives a rat's ass about protests anymore.
Unless you're armed and ready to use them - why should politicians who are so antithetically opposed to
you give a shit?? So sure, put on a 'pussy hat' get some friends together and do some virtue signaling.

Magoo48

(6,739 posts)
7. I agree, massive voter turnout is imperative, but without massive directional encouragement from
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 10:06 AM
Jul 2022

we the people, I can’t see fundamental change happening.

Magoo48

(6,739 posts)
8. Oh, I touched a nerve. Perhaps you see what general apathy is doing, or isn't doing.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 10:14 AM
Jul 2022

What’s a pussy hat?

Totally Tunsie

(12,013 posts)
10. Pussyhat...
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 10:25 AM
Jul 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussyhat

A pussyhat is a pink, crafted hat, created in large numbers by women involved with the United States 2017 Women's March. They are the result of the Pussyhat Project, a nationwide effort initiated by Krista Suh and Jayna Zweiman, a screenwriter and architect located in Los Angeles, to create pink hats to be worn at the march.[1]
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The creators state that the name refers to the resemblance of the top corners of the hats to cat ears while also attempting to reclaim the term "pussy", a play on Trump's widely reported 2005 remarks that women would let him "grab them by the pussy.




The concept, however, is losing its appeal and is being reconsidered:

ttps://www.freep.com/story/news/2018/01/10/pink-pussyhats-feminists-hats-womens-march/1013630001/

But this time when marchers take to the streets in cities from Lansing to Las Vegas, there could be fewer pink pussyhats in the crowds.

The reason: The sentiment that the pink pussyhat excludes and is offensive to transgender women and gender nonbinary people who don't have typical female genitalia and to women of color because their genitals are more likely to be brown than pink.

"I personally won’t wear one because if it hurts even a few people's feelings, then I don't feel like it’s unifying," said Phoebe Hopps, founder and president of Women's March Michigan and organizer of anniversary marches Jan. 21 in Lansing and Marquette.

"I care more about mobilizing people to the polls than wearing one hat one day of the year."

Phoebe Hopps, founder and president of Women's March Michigan.
The state and national organizations, she said, have tried "to move away from the pussyhats for several months now, and are not making it the cornerstone of our messaging because ... there’s a few things wrong with the message.

"It doesn’t sit well with a group of people that feel that the pink pussyhats are either vulgar or they are upset that they might not include trans women or nonbinary women or maybe women whose (genitals) are not pink."

cilla4progress

(26,526 posts)
12. I agree - and Obama said the same thing -
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 02:37 PM
Jul 2022

things change when we take to the streets in defiant peaceful protest.

dawg

(10,777 posts)
9. "Everyone" doesn't know this.
Sun Jul 3, 2022, 10:16 AM
Jul 2022

And the people who do, have segregated themselves into dense urban clusters that dilute their voting power under the rules of our 18th century constitution.

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